Ok, have some new FATS pulls:

Hal_TT::CBP · 11-18-2005, 04:50 PM

in order of runs:

3.71
3.61
3.65

Street weight(with baby seat even lol), 1/4 tank of 93oct, APR Beta AF(this is the 2.0 code), 45deg, dry/clear skies. Anyone have the HP calculator to see what the guesstimate is on these? FYI... my car is about 100lbs lighter than a stock S4(wheels/tires/brakes/battery/exhaust).

Guess this will be my base for tweaking... there is more timing left based on the CFs and KVs =-)

Oh and forgot who said the RS4 ICs heat soaked bad. Ran 4 runs within 15 minures of each other, about 2mi of cool down between runs and the times are pretty much the same. I did run a 3.84 on the first one but it was slow because I rolled in late(slight traffic) and didn't WOT until ~3800rpms. The other three runs were WOT at 3400rpms for the most part.

PSmalls::DoggieStyle · 11-18-2005, 05:03 PM

3820 lbs:

3650 lbs:

You sound like you're right in between the two and your average FATS is ~3.65 so over 450 chp? All you wanted was 420 so you should be happy.

Todeshandler · 11-18-2005, 05:08 PM

Ochlockonee · 11-18-2005, 05:11 PM

Hal_TT::CBP · 11-18-2005, 05:16 PM

Hal_TT::CBP · 11-18-2005, 05:20 PM

KVs are middle teens. I am having problems with ECUX dropping data if I log more than 14 or so variables at once... I dropped the CFs out of these pulls.

Also I hate running pulls at cool temps, would rather stay ~75deg as that is what I'm used to working with. Anyways I'll be playing with it some more this weekend to see what it will do. May put the testpipes on for giggles...

Anything in particular you'd like to see logged?

X - 1 _ r a c e r · 11-19-2005, 01:23 AM

Thanks MarkP for the graphing and hosting

And Nyet ran the HP estimator to ~430 crank / 310 whp.

According to MarkP, there is a newer version of the beta I did this pull on that has better fueling. Don't know details. I now have the file, just not the home programmer.

Ochlockonee · 11-19-2005, 05:18 AM

Hal_TT::CBP · 11-19-2005, 06:07 AM

on my pulls. I'd like to know what it does at 70-75 deg since all my other runs/times are at much higher temps. If I extrapolate I am guessing I'd be ~3.8'ish at those temps.

I need to figure out whats wrong with ECUX as its dropping data on Jeff and Marks rungroups. Anything over 14 or so values and it loses a few seconds here and there. Lost two full pulls yesterday on a 15min logging session. Of course now that the WOT pulls are 3.6-3.8 secs I guess its easier to lose lol.

Hal_TT::CBP · 11-19-2005, 07:21 AM

occasion, timing is high singles to ~20ish at the top(7K rpms), iats at 45deg ambients are starting at 68deg, dropping to 65deg mid pull and then finishing at 90deg at 6500+ rpms. I have RS4ICs and ASP spacers fyi. Looks like they iats drop ~10deg ~10secs after the pull, don't know after that as I killed the data pulls on these after WOT.

11-18-2005, 04:50 PM	#1
Hal_TT::CBP Senior Member Account #: 3027 Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 9,679	Ok, have some new FATS pulls: in order of runs: 3.71 3.61 3.65 Street weight(with baby seat even lol), 1/4 tank of 93oct, APR Beta AF(this is the 2.0 code), 45deg, dry/clear skies. Anyone have the HP calculator to see what the guesstimate is on these? FYI... my car is about 100lbs lighter than a stock S4(wheels/tires/brakes/battery/exhaust). Guess this will be my base for tweaking... there is more timing left based on the CFs and KVs =-) Oh and forgot who said the RS4 ICs heat soaked bad. Ran 4 runs within 15 minures of each other, about 2mi of cool down between runs and the times are pretty much the same. I did run a 3.84 on the first one but it was slow because I rolled in late(slight traffic) and didn't WOT until ~3800rpms. The other three runs were WOT at 3400rpms for the most part. __________________ Hal. Whoops... I wanna ride... APR Stg3 (and then some) Sold.

11-18-2005, 05:03 PM	#2
PSmalls::DoggieStyle Elder Member Account #: 69223 Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 30,285	We want to see the raw data. :) Those are very respectable times for OTS. HP estimates.... 3820 lbs: 3650 lbs: You sound like you're right in between the two and your average FATS is ~3.65 so over 450 chp? All you wanted was 420 so you should be happy.

11-18-2005, 05:08 PM	#3
Todeshandler Member Account #: 71856 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5,699	Hmmm the new APR code is impressive. __________________

11-18-2005, 05:11 PM	#4
Ochlockonee Member Account #: 72863 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,953	Sooo. What kind of timing and cfs are you seeing? __________________ "No, a flux capacitor is not compatible with a ham sandwich."

11-18-2005, 05:16 PM	#5
Hal_TT::CBP Senior Member Account #: 3027 Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 9,679	YGM. __________________ Hal. Whoops... I wanna ride... APR Stg3 (and then some) Sold.

11-18-2005, 05:20 PM	#6
Hal_TT::CBP Senior Member Account #: 3027 Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 9,679	You know, I would have expected it to be higher, avgerages high singles - low teens on a pull. KVs are middle teens. I am having problems with ECUX dropping data if I log more than 14 or so variables at once... I dropped the CFs out of these pulls. Also I hate running pulls at cool temps, would rather stay ~75deg as that is what I'm used to working with. Anyways I'll be playing with it some more this weekend to see what it will do. May put the testpipes on for giggles... Anything in particular you'd like to see logged? __________________ Hal. Whoops... I wanna ride... APR Stg3 (and then some) Sold.

11-19-2005, 01:23 AM	#7
X - 1 _ r a c e r Member Account #: 57674 Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 2,426	Here's the graphed data from my 91oct pull... Thanks MarkP for the graphing and hosting And Nyet ran the HP estimator to ~430 crank / 310 whp. According to MarkP, there is a newer version of the beta I did this pull on that has better fueling. Don't know details. I now have the file, just not the home programmer. __________________ _________________________________________ "Welcome to the wonderful world of S4 ownership. No more happiness for you" VandyS4 ----------------------------------------- 3.8 FATS on 91 octane, no more APR hating! ------------------------------------- If someone stole Troy's Penskes he might not notice until 2008... ...when he goes to sell them (NIB) for something else. _________________________________________

11-19-2005, 05:18 AM	#8
Ochlockonee Member Account #: 72863 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,953	Thanks for the info. I'm curious about boost, timing,iat and cfs more than anything. __________________ "No, a flux capacitor is not compatible with a ham sandwich."

11-19-2005, 06:07 AM	#9
Hal_TT::CBP Senior Member Account #: 3027 Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 9,679	Yeah I'm guessing about 450-460'ish crank based on the 3850lb FATS chart. But it was cold on my pulls. I'd like to know what it does at 70-75 deg since all my other runs/times are at much higher temps. If I extrapolate I am guessing I'd be ~3.8'ish at those temps. I need to figure out whats wrong with ECUX as its dropping data on Jeff and Marks rungroups. Anything over 14 or so values and it loses a few seconds here and there. Lost two full pulls yesterday on a 15min logging session. Of course now that the WOT pulls are 3.6-3.8 secs I guess its easier to lose lol. __________________ Hal. Whoops... I wanna ride... APR Stg3 (and then some) Sold.

11-19-2005, 07:21 AM	#10
Hal_TT::CBP Senior Member Account #: 3027 Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 9,679	I'll get some more data for you. Mostly boost is 1.4B to redline, have seen it catch 1.5B on occasion, timing is high singles to ~20ish at the top(7K rpms), iats at 45deg ambients are starting at 68deg, dropping to 65deg mid pull and then finishing at 90deg at 6500+ rpms. I have RS4ICs and ASP spacers fyi. Looks like they iats drop ~10deg ~10secs after the pull, don't know after that as I killed the data pulls on these after WOT. __________________ Hal. Whoops... I wanna ride... APR Stg3 (and then some) Sold.

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