APR vs. New Giac vs. AMS on boost ramp up...

rennteknik · 09-14-2005, 08:43 AM

here is the APR

and the new GIAC, albiet not quite right..

and AMS, I was shifting gears

thoughts?

Christian (Stage Ow) · 09-14-2005, 08:46 AM

rennteknik · 09-14-2005, 08:49 AM

Black Sunshine · 09-14-2005, 08:52 AM

The bottom pull is from my car, from last night. It's a 2nd gear pull from 1500 to redline. The APR pull is from 3000 to 5400... apples and oranges

rennteknik · 09-14-2005, 09:00 AM

I was working woth some logs i just dug up... so your right apples and oranges..

but I feel the new GIAC is real soft from 3-4k then it rips..

and the requested should be the same no matter how the run is done. and that what im looking at.. the curve of the requested.

Black Sunshine · 09-14-2005, 09:03 AM

in your APR log, and I don't even know what the axis scale on the AMS log is...

It would be ideal to just overlay all the data on a single plot.

rennteknik · 09-14-2005, 09:08 AM

id really like the new GIAC to come in better... the old code gave me tons of headaches, thorttle cut.. and I honestly think the APR i have now is making better power then the new GIAC. while AMS just smokes both of them.. When the old GIAC wasnt throttle cutting it made awesome power. but I wasnt about to band aid the problem with a MBC like everyone else does.

Black Sunshine · 09-14-2005, 09:12 AM

rktskicar · 09-14-2005, 09:37 AM

Oo.et.oO · 09-14-2005, 09:42 AM

09-14-2005, 08:43 AM	#1
rennteknik Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,211	APR vs. New Giac vs. AMS on boost ramp up... here is the APR and the new GIAC, albiet not quite right.. and AMS, I was shifting gears thoughts? __________________ Money Pit Motorsports 01.5 S4 Avant STG III 95 BMW M3 90 Coupe Quattro 20VT Thanks in no particular order: VAST, AWE, Buehn, ASP, Europrice, Moss@Torque Factory.. All A+ Vendors

09-14-2005, 08:46 AM	#2
Christian (Stage Ow) AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,102	are those both on your car? what's with the boost spike at 3200? __________________ __________ "It's easier to practice medicine without a license in this country than it is to get info on tuning Motronic." -JasonS9

09-14-2005, 08:49 AM	#3
rennteknik Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,211	different cars... but I am not really comparing peak boost as muh as they way it comes on. __________________ Money Pit Motorsports 01.5 S4 Avant STG III 95 BMW M3 90 Coupe Quattro 20VT Thanks in no particular order: VAST, AWE, Buehn, ASP, Europrice, Moss@Torque Factory.. All A+ Vendors

09-14-2005, 08:52 AM	#4
Black Sunshine AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 4,055	your x-axis scale is all different, what gear is the APR pull in? The bottom pull is from my car, from last night. It's a 2nd gear pull from 1500 to redline. The APR pull is from 3000 to 5400... apples and oranges __________________ "Gripping the wheel his knuckles went white with desire. The wheels of his Audi exploding on the highway like a slug from a 45. True Death, 400 horsepower of maximum performance piercing the night - this is Black Sunshine" 2002 S4 6MT AWE STG 3 - Still here, but not much longer 1995 S6 Avant Emerald/Ecru - Almost here, not much longer

09-14-2005, 09:00 AM	#5
rennteknik Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,211	3rd gear... I will make a pull in 2nd 1500 to red tonight I was working woth some logs i just dug up... so your right apples and oranges.. but I feel the new GIAC is real soft from 3-4k then it rips.. and the requested should be the same no matter how the run is done. and that what im looking at.. the curve of the requested. __________________ Money Pit Motorsports 01.5 S4 Avant STG III 95 BMW M3 90 Coupe Quattro 20VT Thanks in no particular order: VAST, AWE, Buehn, ASP, Europrice, Moss@Torque Factory.. All A+ Vendors

09-14-2005, 09:03 AM	#6
Black Sunshine AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 4,055	Right, but you are not logging the requested from 1500-3000 in your APR log, and I don't even know what the axis scale on the AMS log is... It would be ideal to just overlay all the data on a single plot. __________________ "Gripping the wheel his knuckles went white with desire. The wheels of his Audi exploding on the highway like a slug from a 45. True Death, 400 horsepower of maximum performance piercing the night - this is Black Sunshine" 2002 S4 6MT AWE STG 3 - Still here, but not much longer 1995 S6 Avant Emerald/Ecru - Almost here, not much longer

09-14-2005, 09:08 AM	#7
rennteknik Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,211	ill get the data after work 2nd gear 1500 - RL.. id really like the new GIAC to come in better... the old code gave me tons of headaches, thorttle cut.. and I honestly think the APR i have now is making better power then the new GIAC. while AMS just smokes both of them.. When the old GIAC wasnt throttle cutting it made awesome power. but I wasnt about to band aid the problem with a MBC like everyone else does. __________________ Money Pit Motorsports 01.5 S4 Avant STG III 95 BMW M3 90 Coupe Quattro 20VT Thanks in no particular order: VAST, AWE, Buehn, ASP, Europrice, Moss@Torque Factory.. All A+ Vendors

09-14-2005, 09:12 AM	#8
Black Sunshine AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 4,055	do a 3rd gear 1500 to RL also... __________________ "Gripping the wheel his knuckles went white with desire. The wheels of his Audi exploding on the highway like a slug from a 45. True Death, 400 horsepower of maximum performance piercing the night - this is Black Sunshine" 2002 S4 6MT AWE STG 3 - Still here, but not much longer 1995 S6 Avant Emerald/Ecru - Almost here, not much longer

09-14-2005, 09:37 AM	#9
rktskicar AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seattle area Posts: 10,750	these curves would have more value if done on the same car. __________________ "once a B5 S4 owner, always a B5 S4 fan" Stock ECU, 010 6MT Sprint Blue B8 S4. Premium +, Sport diff, B&O BBS CH, 255/40/18 Bridgestone RE960 AS, Milltek resonated cat-back + DPs Past: 01.5 6MT ASP Stage 3 S4 (4/01 to 9/09)

09-14-2005, 09:42 AM	#10
Oo.et.oO AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,889	2nd. then plot all on same graph if possible. boost vs. rpm __________________ Gone but not forgotten: 2001 Brilliant Black S4 Avant 6spd. c'mon AoA, where is the B8 A4 3.0 TDi?

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