M1 0w40 oil analysis results after 8k miles, 10.5 months, on a 78.5k miles S4...

LCP · 09-08-2005, 09:04 PM

It's been an RSK04 care the whole time, running water injection, with a mixture of washer fluid/water being injected. Sorry for the small pic -- pic poster resized it to a max 480 pixel height. M1 T&SUV 5w40 is in there now, and I'll probably change it at 6500 miles or 8 months, whichever occurs first.

"LANCE: Universal averages show typical wear from this type of engine after 6,300 miles on the oil.
Your oil was in use 8,000 miles and we iron (from any steel part sharing the oil) and sodium reading
above averages. Sodium is present in some types of additives and in Red Line oil, so let us know if
you've used either. Otherwise we think it could show a trace of coolant, though there's not much. We
suggest that you consider your next oil and filter change at 6,000 miles and check back to monitor
results. Insolubles show the oil filter was maxed out."

JBear::FATS · 09-08-2005, 09:33 PM

you see ..

Thanks.

LCP · 09-08-2005, 09:40 PM

FixedWing · 09-08-2005, 11:06 PM

FixedWing · 09-08-2005, 11:10 PM

I cannot read some of them. What is copper?

I really don't like the comment on insolubles and the filter. What sort of filter were you using?

Is this the first use of a synthetic possibly? Did you use any sort of cleaning additives?

Given those numbers, I'd want to change the oil at 5,000 miles if only to see if they start to improve.

Stephen

GrandPaJohn · 09-09-2005, 05:00 AM

s4 oil report (zoom in)

***O.W. Kenobi*** · 09-09-2005, 06:07 AM

LCP · 09-09-2005, 07:08 AM

LCP · 09-09-2005, 07:10 AM

...I wonder if the water injection contributes to the higher iron wear?

***O.W. Kenobi*** · 09-09-2005, 07:27 AM

are generally okay at 8000 mile intervals. I just tried 9500, and they told me to back it off to 8k, but definitely not 6k. And I have lots of track time.

Proves that all engines are different, I guess.

09-08-2005, 09:04 PM	#1
LCP AudiWorld Expert Account #: 125 Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 26,557	M1 0w40 oil analysis results after 8k miles, 10.5 months, on a 78.5k miles S4... It's been an RSK04 care the whole time, running water injection, with a mixture of washer fluid/water being injected. Sorry for the small pic -- pic poster resized it to a max 480 pixel height. M1 T&SUV 5w40 is in there now, and I'll probably change it at 6500 miles or 8 months, whichever occurs first. "LANCE: Universal averages show typical wear from this type of engine after 6,300 miles on the oil. Your oil was in use 8,000 miles and we iron (from any steel part sharing the oil) and sodium reading above averages. Sodium is present in some types of additives and in Red Line oil, so let us know if you've used either. Otherwise we think it could show a trace of coolant, though there's not much. We suggest that you consider your next oil and filter change at 6,000 miles and check back to monitor results. Insolubles show the oil filter was maxed out." __________________ "I can't stop apexing" 2000 S4 :: Nogaro Blue :: 6-spd :: AWE RSK04 :: AP Racing 13" 4-pots STaSIS Tracksports 550f/600r + 19mm rear sway bar :: APR Bipipe RS4 ICs :: Forge BPVs :: Autospeed DPs :: Borla :: Aquamist 1s UUC 40% short shifter w/spacer mod :: AWE center vent boost guage Lightweight flywheel :: 18x8 Ronal LZ's :: 235/40-18 Toyo T1R's 2002 allroad :: Atlas Grey :: Tip :: 245/50-17 Dunlop SP5000's Looking for tires? See My review of all of the tires I've had on my S4 Need info? See Everything anyone needs to know about their S4 Help our troops protect their heads: Donate to Operation Helmet Rest In Peace Matthew Ammon a/k/a O.W. Kenobi. May the Force be with you as you keep on apexing. Read his funniest post here.

09-08-2005, 09:33 PM	#2
JBear::FATS Senior Member Account #: 9725 Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,427	I made the same oil switch and noticed that my oil temps went up ever so slightly, let me know what you see .. Thanks. __________________ ________________________________________ 2001 S4 6-Speed Santorin Engine/Drivetrain: ASP Custom Tuned Stage III Fueling, RS4 Y-Pipe/Clutch/Fuel Pump/IC's, X1 Intake, Samco F-Hose, APR Bi-Pipe, Piggie Pipes, Miltek Single, AWE DTS, APR Snub, TG SS, VAST Water/Meth Kit. Suspension/Brakes: Vogtland GT, Neuspeed Rear Swaybar (Med), Stoptech 332 BBK. Exterior: 18" BBS CH, M3 Lip Spoiler, SPP Foglight Bulbs, RS4 Grill, E-Codes. Interior: UUC Alcantata Boot, TwinData EFU, Strat S4 Logo Floor Mats, HW V1, PhatBox.

09-08-2005, 09:40 PM	#3
LCP AudiWorld Expert Account #: 125 Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 26,557	Haven't really been paying attention. I'll see if I can discern a change though. __________________ "I can't stop apexing" 2000 S4 :: Nogaro Blue :: 6-spd :: AWE RSK04 :: AP Racing 13" 4-pots STaSIS Tracksports 550f/600r + 19mm rear sway bar :: APR Bipipe RS4 ICs :: Forge BPVs :: Autospeed DPs :: Borla :: Aquamist 1s UUC 40% short shifter w/spacer mod :: AWE center vent boost guage Lightweight flywheel :: 18x8 Ronal LZ's :: 235/40-18 Toyo T1R's 2002 allroad :: Atlas Grey :: Tip :: 245/50-17 Dunlop SP5000's Looking for tires? See My review of all of the tires I've had on my S4 Need info? See Everything anyone needs to know about their S4 Help our troops protect their heads: Donate to Operation Helmet Rest In Peace Matthew Ammon a/k/a O.W. Kenobi. May the Force be with you as you keep on apexing. Read his funniest post here.

09-08-2005, 11:06 PM	#4
FixedWing Senior Member Account #: 66531 Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,155	I got that feeling also when switching back from GC 0W30 to M1 0W40. __________________ ================================================== ======================

09-08-2005, 11:10 PM	#5
FixedWing Senior Member Account #: 66531 Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,155	I wouldn't be happy with those iron wear figures... I cannot read some of them. What is copper? I really don't like the comment on insolubles and the filter. What sort of filter were you using? Is this the first use of a synthetic possibly? Did you use any sort of cleaning additives? Given those numbers, I'd want to change the oil at 5,000 miles if only to see if they start to improve. Stephen __________________ ================================================== ======================

09-09-2005, 05:00 AM	#6
GrandPaJohn AudiWorld Super User Account #: 3954 Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 6,468	I just got mine back too. Higher iron than previous, but still ok. s4 oil report (zoom in) __________________ '00 Black/Silver S4 6 speed 239,000 miles and counting STG 3 Power finally •<a href="http://WWW.BONDABILITY.COM" target="_blank">Surety Bond Agent</a>

09-09-2005, 06:07 AM	#7
*O.W. Kenobi* R.I.P. Account #: 20137 Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 19,413	Any track time? __________________ ======================================== My track videos * Brake FAQ * Kenobi lock pump * Kenobi hazard relay * Lidatek install * 43k oil analysis * 51k oil analysis * 60k oil analysis * 68k oil analysis * 76k oil analysis

09-09-2005, 07:08 AM	#8
LCP AudiWorld Expert Account #: 125 Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 26,557	Nope __________________ "I can't stop apexing" 2000 S4 :: Nogaro Blue :: 6-spd :: AWE RSK04 :: AP Racing 13" 4-pots STaSIS Tracksports 550f/600r + 19mm rear sway bar :: APR Bipipe RS4 ICs :: Forge BPVs :: Autospeed DPs :: Borla :: Aquamist 1s UUC 40% short shifter w/spacer mod :: AWE center vent boost guage Lightweight flywheel :: 18x8 Ronal LZ's :: 235/40-18 Toyo T1R's 2002 allroad :: Atlas Grey :: Tip :: 245/50-17 Dunlop SP5000's Looking for tires? See My review of all of the tires I've had on my S4 Need info? See Everything anyone needs to know about their S4 Help our troops protect their heads: Donate to Operation Helmet Rest In Peace Matthew Ammon a/k/a O.W. Kenobi. May the Force be with you as you keep on apexing. Read his funniest post here.

09-09-2005, 07:10 AM	#9
LCP AudiWorld Expert Account #: 125 Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 26,557	Yeah, the iron wear makes me wonder. Been using M1 0w40 for years. Mann filter... ...I wonder if the water injection contributes to the higher iron wear? __________________ "I can't stop apexing" 2000 S4 :: Nogaro Blue :: 6-spd :: AWE RSK04 :: AP Racing 13" 4-pots STaSIS Tracksports 550f/600r + 19mm rear sway bar :: APR Bipipe RS4 ICs :: Forge BPVs :: Autospeed DPs :: Borla :: Aquamist 1s UUC 40% short shifter w/spacer mod :: AWE center vent boost guage Lightweight flywheel :: 18x8 Ronal LZ's :: 235/40-18 Toyo T1R's 2002 allroad :: Atlas Grey :: Tip :: 245/50-17 Dunlop SP5000's Looking for tires? See My review of all of the tires I've had on my S4 Need info? See Everything anyone needs to know about their S4 Help our troops protect their heads: Donate to Operation Helmet Rest In Peace Matthew Ammon a/k/a O.W. Kenobi. May the Force be with you as you keep on apexing. Read his funniest post here.

09-09-2005, 07:27 AM	#10
*O.W. Kenobi* R.I.P. Account #: 20137 Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 19,413	Weird. Well, my motor is stock (except for 710Ns), so maybe that's why my analyses are generally okay at 8000 mile intervals. I just tried 9500, and they told me to back it off to 8k, but definitely not 6k. And I have lots of track time. Proves that all engines are different, I guess. __________________ ======================================== My track videos * Brake FAQ * Kenobi lock pump * Kenobi hazard relay * Lidatek install * 43k oil analysis * 51k oil analysis * 60k oil analysis * 68k oil analysis * 76k oil analysis

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