just a reference guys...a 5 bar fuel regulator on stock injectors and more

~~Mike@VAST~~ · 07-16-2004, 12:40 PM

is going to put your long-term-fuel-trims at around -14 to -15% rich. idle will be still around 0, but maybe a bit negative by a percent or two. at wide open throttle, you can start tuning from there and leaning out the primary fuel if you want with giac mobile tuner, apr v-tune or revo lemmiwinks or whatever else is out there. personally, i target around -7% rich.

just figure out what's fastest for your car. log 026 and 027 to be sure your knock voltages are in the high teens, low 20's. knock gets saturated around 29.835. try not to hit that frequently, if you bounce off of it from time to time, it's ok. you can either: add fuel or subtract timing to reduce your knock values. listen for any audible ping as well. fwiw, i've run some cars up to the limit and haven't destroyed a motor yet.

in block 031 log your wide open throttle voltages on the primary sensors and be sure it's around 0.8V+ to redline. anything higher than about 0.95volts is going richer than what i'd like to use.

(edit)...On stage 3- cars, a rough guideline at around sea level - 1000' above, you'll pull around 300 g/s of air on k04's at 15 psi. try to keep the maf at around 315 max. watch everything beyond 16-17psi as you may run lean on stock fueling and 5 bar fpr.

hope this helps you guys tune up your cars...whether it's on k03's or k04's or whatever stuff you run.

Mike

Mr Fast · 07-16-2004, 12:43 PM

Mike2kS4 · 07-16-2004, 12:44 PM

PSmalls::DoggieStyle · 07-16-2004, 12:46 PM

KOpork · 07-16-2004, 12:49 PM

S4_4MY30'S · 07-16-2004, 12:50 PM

haha you rule! that's all...

Ray D.
90 G60 Tornado Red
00 S4 Silver/Onyx

S4mig@PEB tuning · 07-16-2004, 12:51 PM

PSmalls::DoggieStyle · 07-16-2004, 12:52 PM

PSmalls::DoggieStyle · 07-16-2004, 12:55 PM

Chaka · 07-16-2004, 12:59 PM

07-16-2004, 12:40 PM	#1
~~Mike@VAST~~ Banned Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 19,474	just a reference guys...a 5 bar fuel regulator on stock injectors and more is going to put your long-term-fuel-trims at around -14 to -15% rich. idle will be still around 0, but maybe a bit negative by a percent or two. at wide open throttle, you can start tuning from there and leaning out the primary fuel if you want with giac mobile tuner, apr v-tune or revo lemmiwinks or whatever else is out there. personally, i target around -7% rich. just figure out what's fastest for your car. log 026 and 027 to be sure your knock voltages are in the high teens, low 20's. knock gets saturated around 29.835. try not to hit that frequently, if you bounce off of it from time to time, it's ok. you can either: add fuel or subtract timing to reduce your knock values. listen for any audible ping as well. fwiw, i've run some cars up to the limit and haven't destroyed a motor yet. in block 031 log your wide open throttle voltages on the primary sensors and be sure it's around 0.8V+ to redline. anything higher than about 0.95volts is going richer than what i'd like to use. (edit)...On stage 3- cars, a rough guideline at around sea level - 1000' above, you'll pull around 300 g/s of air on k04's at 15 psi. try to keep the maf at around 315 max. watch everything beyond 16-17psi as you may run lean on stock fueling and 5 bar fpr. hope this helps you guys tune up your cars...whether it's on k03's or k04's or whatever stuff you run. Mike

07-16-2004, 12:43 PM	#2
Mr Fast New Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18	thank you ..I'll try those 2nite

07-16-2004, 12:44 PM	#3
Mike2kS4 AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,096	Sage advice. Wasn't sure about knock saturation value! __________________ 2002 S4 Avant, 6spd. Bone stock. <a href="http://www.autospeed.us"> </a> Caveat: Any advice I express regarding potential tuning and such is purely informational. If your knowledge and abilities are not up to the task, no amount of advice can assist.

07-16-2004, 12:46 PM	#4
PSmalls::DoggieStyle Elder Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 30,257	Thanks, Dinkus.

07-16-2004, 12:49 PM	#5
KOpork Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 16,413	You already did that for me, but thanks. :-) __________________ Silver S4 for sale RIP OWK 2000 Audi S4 piggified stg3 2000 Audi S4 stock 2008 Triumph Daytona 674 SE

07-16-2004, 12:50 PM	#6
S4_4MY30'S AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 5,446	what???? masta tuna givin out his tips to the open public??? haha you rule! that's all... Ray D. 90 G60 Tornado Red 00 S4 Silver/Onyx

07-16-2004, 12:51 PM	#7
S4mig@PEB tuning Elder Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 12,878	Better than people blowing motors left and right. __________________ <a href="http://account.audiworld.com/users/20137.phtml"> </a> AIM: aSmig4 My favorite "tuner" quote, now deleted: "If you had purchased our kit you car would still be a nice 2002 S4 instead of a big pile of blue garbage." Bob@strat. describing BuffaloNogaro's car. Do tuners lie? FOD kills.

07-16-2004, 12:52 PM	#8
PSmalls::DoggieStyle Elder Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 30,257	Everyone who is messing around should know that. Those aren't piggie secrets.

07-16-2004, 12:55 PM	#9
PSmalls::DoggieStyle Elder Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 30,257	I said to aim for low 20s/high teens a few days ago. Nobody listens to me :(

07-16-2004, 12:59 PM	#10
Chaka AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 7,693	what do I do with all the extra peanut butter? __________________

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