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Old 05-02-2003, 01:14 PM   #11
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Default Summary of APR Downpipe Changes...

1.) Single pipe - no welds, not pieced together
2.) 2.5" pipe throughout
3.) Cat/Test Pipe section shaped for better clearence around transmission/tunnel
4.) 2nd O2 Sensor Bung relocated behind Cat (no longer requires stg 2+ sofware to avoid DTC)
5.) Larger Flex joints to maintain 2.5" flow.
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'01.5 VW Golf 4dr 1.8T, Satin Silver, GT28R - website - 203k miles
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Old 05-02-2003, 01:33 PM   #12
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Default Overall View (note the cat/test pipe shaped to fit better around transmisison)

Previous System:


New System:
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'04 Porsche 911 Turbo, Speed Yellow - website - 26k miles
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'01.5 VW Golf 4dr 1.8T, Satin Silver, GT28R - website - 203k miles
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Old 05-02-2003, 01:33 PM   #13
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Default 2.5" piping throughout








Previous vs New:






ID = Inside Diameter
OD = Outside Diameter

Old APR DPs:
ID=2"
OD=2 1/8" (2.175")

New APR DPs:
ID=2 3/8" (2.375")
OD=2 1/2" (2.5")



The old bottleneck was 2". It's now 2 3/8". This is a 41% increase in cross sectional area*

* Inside diameter of 2" versus 2 3/8":
Cross sectional area = Pi * (Diameter/2)^2

Old/stock = Pi * (2/2)^2 = 3.14
New = Pi * (2.375/2)^2 = 4.43

% increase = (4.43-3.14)/3.14 = 41%
(actually, the previous version had a bottleneck in the flex joints less than 2", so this new version is actually a bigger improvement)
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Old 05-02-2003, 01:33 PM   #14
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Default No Welds (single pipe)


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Old 05-02-2003, 01:33 PM   #15
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Default 2nd O2 Sensor Bungs located behind Cats

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Old 05-02-2003, 01:33 PM   #16
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Old 05-02-2003, 02:36 PM   #17
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Default Good job guys, but get a real picture of them on your website and

some hp/ft lb dynometer data, then I'm sold!



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Old 05-02-2003, 03:04 PM   #18
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Default I have these. My wheel HP/TQ gain at Stage II+: 12/50 (torquey!). I really like them.

I now have them mated to the new APR cat-back (2.5") for my Stage III and the sound/fitment is topnotch.
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Old 05-02-2003, 03:50 PM   #19
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