My butt dyno with chip review

XCCESS · 03-10-2003, 11:38 PM

I don't have the real dyno number, but did test it with other driver who run with me from time to time as well as the butt dyno.

APR; Slowest chip out there for the M box. Boosted about 16+ PSI

MTM: alots of low end torque power and almost as fast as ABT, it about 1/2 car length slower to ABT on the 3rd gear. This chip is good for light to light racing. Adapted well to the race gas. Boosted only 14 PSI, the lowest boost chip out there

ABT: very fast, a little faster then MTM, but give a lot of code, also when doing WOT, the ABS and ESP light goes off. This chip can adapted well to race gas and felt as fast as XR, but don't feel much torque like XR. Boosted about 16 PSI

GIAC X: fast as ABT, but not smooth as ABT, and do not adapt well to race gas. Spike to 19-20 PSI and settle down to 16+ PSI

XR: this chip will run on race gas only, it is one bad a$$ chip, you can feel alot of torque with this chip, it will boosted 23 PSI.

I will do block 120 with VAG-COM, if you think I should data with other block please post here and I will try to do it. For now, this is all I have

No More B5 S4 · 03-10-2003, 11:44 PM

PhoenixGTS · 03-10-2003, 11:47 PM

Milpitas2.7T · 03-10-2003, 11:49 PM

Your butt dyno really really needs some tuning, in fact I would go out on a limb and say you need to upgrade to a new butt dyno, one with buttons instead of a zipper one that is relaxed fit vs flared bottoms, one that does not have a patch of the american eagle on the back right pocket.

APR as seen on the timeslip is not the weakest chip on race gas, race program can adapt and it runs darn well.

And on my car, all chips boost about the same 1.1 1.3 (spikes) of boost, while the XR is rumored to almost hit and or hit that magic 1.5 bar number in higher gear low rpm scenarios, but I don't race in those conditions. I have not driven the MTM, but I really want to try the MTM stg III chip.

AMS is in no stretch of the imagination as fast as the XR, there is nothing currently that can touch the XR. It's currently the Desert Eagle of stage II chips.

Log blocks 003 115 002..

Tory

Lightweight-USPowah · 03-10-2003, 11:53 PM

Im thinking about declaring the month of March "beat on the TT month" any ideas for a name? Agh screw it.. Lets make it an all year event..

Lightweight-USPowah · 03-10-2003, 11:55 PM

like Ive said before... the street APR program is weak.. I wish he did some runs against the XR chip with 104.. For raw daily driving power, imo, the APR chip is not the way to go..

Taner Halicioglu · 03-11-2003, 12:09 AM

No More B5 S4 · 03-11-2003, 12:20 AM

Agent Orange · 03-11-2003, 12:22 AM

it's very unlikely to blow your turbos, you get all the amazing features of EMCS and the demobilizer now. You can run test pipes with no CE lights, you get a dealer mode, valet mode....if you want to go for the most performance, yes apr is not the way to go, but i know on my stage 2 car with no dps - i ran 105mph trap speeds with 100 octane program - and never blew a turbo, bpv, f-hose, or anything for 35k miles.

The R · 03-11-2003, 12:24 AM

03-10-2003, 11:38 PM	#1
XCCESS AudiWorld Senior Member Account #: 14509 Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 4,378	My butt dyno with chip review I don't have the real dyno number, but did test it with other driver who run with me from time to time as well as the butt dyno. APR; Slowest chip out there for the M box. Boosted about 16+ PSI MTM: alots of low end torque power and almost as fast as ABT, it about 1/2 car length slower to ABT on the 3rd gear. This chip is good for light to light racing. Adapted well to the race gas. Boosted only 14 PSI, the lowest boost chip out there ABT: very fast, a little faster then MTM, but give a lot of code, also when doing WOT, the ABS and ESP light goes off. This chip can adapted well to race gas and felt as fast as XR, but don't feel much torque like XR. Boosted about 16 PSI GIAC X: fast as ABT, but not smooth as ABT, and do not adapt well to race gas. Spike to 19-20 PSI and settle down to 16+ PSI XR: this chip will run on race gas only, it is one bad a$$ chip, you can feel alot of torque with this chip, it will boosted 23 PSI. I will do block 120 with VAG-COM, if you think I should data with other block please post here and I will try to do it. For now, this is all I have __________________ 2007 Ivory Pearl (white) G35 coupe 2005 Carbon black E46 M3 2001 Imola S4 EPL tune STG 3

03-10-2003, 11:44 PM	#2
No More B5 S4 Elder Member Account #: 41217 Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 30,774	Those are my findings EXACTLY except I show a little more boost with both the Abt and MTM. __________________ --------------------------------------------------------- "The Lord be with your spirit. Grace be with you." -2 Timothy 4:22 Click for Peer FATS Times. Updated: 03/15/05<a href="http://public.fotki.com/s4madman/scenerylandscape/wallpapers_1600x1200/"> Got Wallpapers? Updated: 10/29/04</a> The AW Database. Updated: 02/15/05

03-10-2003, 11:47 PM	#3
PhoenixGTS AudiWorld Expert Account #: 14311 Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 39,024	23 psi - cripes! That is craziness. You SHOULD get your warranty vaporized for that. __________________ -------------------------------------- 2006 SRT-8 Jeep Cherokee - Silver with all options except for rear seat entertainment - stubby antenna - clean Porterfield R4S brake pads - low beam HID 1998 Viper GTS - Silver no stripes - full exhaust - 70mm throttle bodies - roller rockers - Mopar PCM - huge radiator and overdrive water pump - underdrive crank pulley - 3.55 rear end and 0.80/5th and 0.64/6th gears - Aldan shocks -- cheapy e-bay drilled/slotted rotors - Cer-Wool side sill insulation - HID - stereo - clear corners - silver painted wheels and gas cap Formerly - 2001 Silver/Onyx S4 with every option except for NAV and phone - sold 09/10/04 - great car, I miss it

03-10-2003, 11:49 PM	#4
Milpitas2.7T Elder Member Account #: 6383 Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 25,962	Your review is scattered and running race gas pretty wrong. Your butt dyno really really needs some tuning, in fact I would go out on a limb and say you need to upgrade to a new butt dyno, one with buttons instead of a zipper one that is relaxed fit vs flared bottoms, one that does not have a patch of the american eagle on the back right pocket. APR as seen on the timeslip is not the weakest chip on race gas, race program can adapt and it runs darn well. And on my car, all chips boost about the same 1.1 1.3 (spikes) of boost, while the XR is rumored to almost hit and or hit that magic 1.5 bar number in higher gear low rpm scenarios, but I don't race in those conditions. I have not driven the MTM, but I really want to try the MTM stg III chip. AMS is in no stretch of the imagination as fast as the XR, there is nothing currently that can touch the XR. It's currently the Desert Eagle of stage II chips. Log blocks 003 115 002.. Tory __________________

03-10-2003, 11:53 PM	#5
Lightweight-USPowah AudiWorld Super User Account #: 25882 Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Manhattan, NY Posts: 11,261	damm, I wish we did our runs.. after I left you guys another M3 handed me my ass.. :( Im thinking about declaring the month of March "beat on the TT month" any ideas for a name? Agh screw it.. Lets make it an all year event.. __________________ 5.7 Liters of Forced American Muscle: 2 + 8 = 715 6.0 Liters of American AWDrivin Muscle & 599ccs of Japanese Track Samurai (ninja style) http://public.fotki.com/johnjacobjingleheimer/

03-10-2003, 11:55 PM	#6
Lightweight-USPowah AudiWorld Super User Account #: 25882 Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Manhattan, NY Posts: 11,261	your probably right about the APR race program but like Ive said before... the street APR program is weak.. I wish he did some runs against the XR chip with 104.. For raw daily driving power, imo, the APR chip is not the way to go.. __________________ 5.7 Liters of Forced American Muscle: 2 + 8 = 715 6.0 Liters of American AWDrivin Muscle & 599ccs of Japanese Track Samurai (ninja style) http://public.fotki.com/johnjacobjingleheimer/

03-11-2003, 12:09 AM	#7
Taner Halicioglu AudiWorld Super User Account #: 623 Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 13,275	pfft. __________________

03-11-2003, 12:20 AM	#8
No More B5 S4 Elder Member Account #: 41217 Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 30,774	Got Boost?! :-O __________________ --------------------------------------------------------- "The Lord be with your spirit. Grace be with you." -2 Timothy 4:22 Click for Peer FATS Times. Updated: 03/15/05<a href="http://public.fotki.com/s4madman/scenerylandscape/wallpapers_1600x1200/"> Got Wallpapers? Updated: 10/29/04</a> The AW Database. Updated: 02/15/05

03-11-2003, 12:22 AM	#9
Agent Orange AudiWorld Super User Account #: 27675 Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 18,253	i would argue for raw daily driving - apr is exactly the way to go it's very unlikely to blow your turbos, you get all the amazing features of EMCS and the demobilizer now. You can run test pipes with no CE lights, you get a dealer mode, valet mode....if you want to go for the most performance, yes apr is not the way to go, but i know on my stage 2 car with no dps - i ran 105mph trap speeds with 100 octane program - and never blew a turbo, bpv, f-hose, or anything for 35k miles. __________________ 2008 Audi RS4 - Sprint Blue, Carbon interior - damn sexy! Forget violence, you are now driving war. There aren't enough superlatives (or space) to properly describe the vulgar joy of driving an RS4. 2004 Volvo V70R wagon - sold 2005 Chrome Orange Lotus Elise - sold and missed 1999 SSL 160 Input J series console flagships the music.

03-11-2003, 12:24 AM	#10
The R AudiWorld Super User Account #: 3387 Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 9,700	What is that, a supra? LOL....just kidding. That's some boost you got there. :-p __________________ -------------------------------------------- Rob aka "The 4DR Assassin" Captain of the S4 Rowing Team 00 S4 Silver/Silver 93 Corrado SLC 90 Beretta GTZ Audi S4: It speaks softly, but carries a big stick! "You must be fast...cuz I was haulin' a$$ when I passed you!" "BUT do not look down on B5 as they will bite you in the ass with vengeance" by Oggie_s

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