Why does anyone want the RS4 (approx. $75k+) when you can spend less $..

LUCIFA · 02-10-2002, 12:05 AM

to make your S4 sedan/avant be almost as fast/quick?! and probably equal or better handling?!

Ok, granted that the RS4 does look more aggressive on the outside, and looks more elegant inside. But..c'mon...why drool over RS4?!

Difference btwn $75,000+ (RS4) and $42,000 (S4) is a fat $33,000+. With upgrades:
chip, exhaust, brake, suspension, short shifter, dps, wheels/tires is less than $10,000. Turbo kit is another $8,000. RS4 body conversion is $9,000. All together, when you put down $75,000, you still get some change. LOL

correct me if I'm wrong. But, I'd rather have what I can have "in the U.S." (S4) instead of drooling over something that I can't have...because I know after the upgrades, S4 is...hmm...GOOD ENOUGH!!!

Bill In SoCal · 02-10-2002, 12:12 AM

Ram@S4-MTM · 02-10-2002, 12:34 AM

Cost him $25,000 to get EACH one approved by the US officials (including import costs/transport)....

He mentioned to me that he had to get a guy in from Germany to assist with the testing which included locking off the gearbox to make the car run front wheel drive and then rear wheel drive...

Why? I don't know, but Jack says that the US doesn't like people importing cars without type approval into the US, and that they support the dealer networks 100% in this..

So - how much for a US RS4?

Regards,

Ram

http://www.silvermanmuseum.com

bobbO · 02-10-2002, 01:28 AM

George @ BostonAudi · 02-10-2002, 07:02 AM

And in Europe its only a 1 year warranty.

LFS4 · 02-10-2002, 07:17 AM

Small Town Terrorist · 02-10-2002, 08:02 AM

and gave it back to Audi. Audi then detuned the engine to 380. RS4 engine is what you want. I hear it is about $15,000.

EuroDriver · 02-10-2002, 09:16 AM

Second hand prices for RS4's in Germany have dropped dramatically.

See my post after I test drove a RS4 which had been chipped for 420 hp.

I am sure glad that I did not get talked in to ordering one last year for $ 67,000

RS4 test drive report

XTRALOW · 02-10-2002, 09:48 AM

bitrbo · 02-10-2002, 10:02 AM

You take an engine made for 250hp and push it up to 380hp vs an engine designed for 380hp right out of the box. Which do you think has better reliablity?

We are hitting the ceiling for the S4 engine at 400hp. Even with bigger turbos, I figure mid 400s. That is almost doubling the output. The RS4 engine is already sitting pretty high, a slight bump to 450 is only about a 20% increase.

Plus, nice recaros, air leather or alcantra steering wheel and shift knob. Bigger brakes(?)

02-10-2002, 12:05 AM	#1
LUCIFA Member Account #: 27436 Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,560	Why does anyone want the RS4 (approx. $75k+) when you can spend less $.. to make your S4 sedan/avant be almost as fast/quick?! and probably equal or better handling?! Ok, granted that the RS4 does look more aggressive on the outside, and looks more elegant inside. But..c'mon...why drool over RS4?! Difference btwn $75,000+ (RS4) and $42,000 (S4) is a fat $33,000+. With upgrades: chip, exhaust, brake, suspension, short shifter, dps, wheels/tires is less than $10,000. Turbo kit is another $8,000. RS4 body conversion is $9,000. All together, when you put down $75,000, you still get some change. LOL correct me if I'm wrong. But, I'd rather have what I can have "in the U.S." (S4) instead of drooling over something that I can't have...because I know after the upgrades, S4 is...hmm...GOOD ENOUGH!!! __________________ Don't ask what college can do for you, but think who you can do in college~! :-D

02-10-2002, 12:12 AM	#2
Bill In SoCal Member Account #: 12026 Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 39,014	33k in upgrades and no warrenty left...that's one reason to go straight to the RS4 __________________

02-10-2002, 12:34 AM	#3
Ram@S4-MTM AudiWorld Super User Account #: 24420 Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 5,584	A guy called Jack Silverman imported 2 into the US.... Cost him $25,000 to get EACH one approved by the US officials (including import costs/transport).... He mentioned to me that he had to get a guy in from Germany to assist with the testing which included locking off the gearbox to make the car run front wheel drive and then rear wheel drive... Why? I don't know, but Jack says that the US doesn't like people importing cars without type approval into the US, and that they support the dealer networks 100% in this.. So - how much for a US RS4? Regards, Ram http://www.silvermanmuseum.com __________________ 103 Laurel Road, Voorhees, NJ 08043

02-10-2002, 01:28 AM	#4
bobbO Member Account #: 11488 Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 2,729	I agree; S4 with mods is still a better deal

02-10-2002, 07:02 AM	#5
George @ BostonAudi Elder Member Account #: 189 Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 15,756	Gray market RS4 has no warranty anyway. And in Europe its only a 1 year warranty. __________________ Boston Audi Group Website

02-10-2002, 07:17 AM	#6
LFS4 Junior Member Account #: 10172 Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 1,695	RS4 would be a much better base for modding, simple mods would probably yield 420-450hp

02-10-2002, 08:02 AM	#7
Small Town Terrorist AudiWorld Super User Account #: 11272 Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 2,417	Read on RS4.org that Quattro Ghmb tuned the RS4 engine to 450 BHP .... and gave it back to Audi. Audi then detuned the engine to 380. RS4 engine is what you want. I hear it is about $15,000. __________________

02-10-2002, 09:16 AM	#8
EuroDriver Junior Member Account #: 24943 Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 518	Agree absolutely although you can buy a second hand RS4 for about $50K now Second hand prices for RS4's in Germany have dropped dramatically. See my post after I test drove a RS4 which had been chipped for 420 hp. I am sure glad that I did not get talked in to ordering one last year for $ 67,000 RS4 test drive report

02-10-2002, 09:48 AM	#9
XTRALOW New Member Account #: 32151 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 34	I only spent $60 for mine used with 8,000 miles on it. Luv It!!!

02-10-2002, 10:02 AM	#10
bitrbo Junior Member Account #: 2240 Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 1,341	Here is why... You take an engine made for 250hp and push it up to 380hp vs an engine designed for 380hp right out of the box. Which do you think has better reliablity? We are hitting the ceiling for the S4 engine at 400hp. Even with bigger turbos, I figure mid 400s. That is almost doubling the output. The RS4 engine is already sitting pretty high, a slight bump to 450 is only about a 20% increase. Plus, nice recaros, air leather or alcantra steering wheel and shift knob. Bigger brakes(?) __________________

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