Open Letter from Johan de Nysschen regarding Audi allroad

**Jason Teller** · 03-30-2006, 02:23 PM

Please respond to this thread with your comments which Johan and AoA will be sure to see.

http://www.audiworld.com/news/06/033006/

paulroad · 03-30-2006, 02:28 PM

but, I truly believe it was a worthwile action. I hope that a solution, fueled by our love for the allroad, is around the corner. Thank you for for you private as well as public responses.
Paul Bernstein

CTQuattro · 03-30-2006, 06:51 PM

It's pretty simple; lease on my wife's allroad is up in April 2007, if there is no allroad or similar vehicle (not the a6 avant tip) from audi, good chance she'll get a 530xi or e500. Both offer more performace in a luxury wagon than the a6 avant. And that 5,000+ lb piggy Q7 is not a viable alternative. If the new c6 platform allroad came here with a manual tranny I would trade my a4 in tomorrow (owned) and we would be a 2-allroad family

myroad · 03-31-2006, 06:00 AM

grey-2002-ar-6sp · 03-30-2006, 02:41 PM

...take permanent root, and lead to new successes for Audi.

(in case the folks at Audi are wondering, I'm the writer who was rather strident in his preference for a manual trans awd mid-sized avant

Troy H · 03-30-2006, 03:33 PM

and even the Japanese, once they catch on to the wagon craze (Subaru obviously excepted, since they've been there all along).

ex-Burgundy03 · 03-30-2006, 04:56 PM

Couldn't agree more!!

My '03 ar 6 speed lease ended in January. Guess whats in my driveway now???? BMW 530 wagon with 6 speed!!!!

Now I've been a loyal Audi driver for a long time - and if the new ar or A6 Avant was available with a manual shift, guess what I'd be driving today?

Now I hate to say it (as a long-time Audi lover), but this bimmer is one nice ride!!! I like it so much that I may have been converted from a loyal Audi customer to a loyal BMW customer - all for the lack of a manual shift car.

Also, if Mr. de Nysschen is reading - the free maintenance which you used to offer, and BMW currently does is another big selling point in BMW's favor.

I think the North American corporate offices of the European manufacturers need to look beyond the sales numbers alone on a particular model. I am a car nut (currently have 5 cars) and many friends ask my advice about car purchases. Many of us here are in the same position. The cost of certifying a car all of us enthusiasts want to buy would pay off exponentially in the number of referral sales and "goodwill" we all bring through our enthusiasm.

I hope to have another Audi sometime in the future. For now, I'll just have to enjoy my clutch pedal and shifter in my new BMW.

downindenver · 03-30-2006, 04:35 PM

An avant with a manual transmission and decent power (read - better acceleration than the current allroad or upcoming Q7). I'd forego the offroad capability just to have the manual transmision. And the S4 avant isn't big enough to be versatile.

allestraÃŸe · 03-30-2006, 03:42 PM

relatively small, but extremely vocal and enthusiastic segment of your customer base. Whether or not I buy Audi products in the future (we currently have more than Audi vehicle, in common with many other members of this forum) will depend on a number of factors, but knowing that AoA senior management is prepared to listen to customers is a factor for me.

You will already have heard from many of my co-posters that the allroad is a very special and unique vehicle. I still enjoy driving mine after 4.5 years. There is nothing else out there in the marketplace that interests me, so the allroad will most likely be with me for some time to come.

Thanks to Audi for producing this great car and I hope circumstances change sufficiently for you to consider re-introducing the allroad for the non-SUV crowd once the Q7 is established.

K2audi · 03-30-2006, 10:28 PM

that we hope to be Audi owners for many years to come. I have never owned a car that I like so much as our allroad. It pretty much does everything I want and does it in style. I constantly have people commenting about it's style, utility, driving capabilities, and that the allroad is such a unique car.

Like they say......there is Quattro and then there is everything else

03-30-2006, 02:28 PM	#2
paulroad AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 18,425	With a public apology for publishing your e-mail address... but, I truly believe it was a worthwile action. I hope that a solution, fueled by our love for the allroad, is around the corner. Thank you for for you private as well as public responses. Paul Bernstein __________________ 4/23/11: S4 Premium Plus, S'Tronic, Nav, Titanium body Original Ride: • Bought New May 2003 allroad 2.7t 6 Speed • Sold @ 217,856 miles on April 23, 2011 -Mod/Repair Log 2400 Miles 5/28/11 New Conti Extreme DWS A/S Tires--smooths out the ride OEM Dipstick--Need to see and smell the oil OEM Rubber Mats--Look better than Stock Carpet and last longer

03-30-2006, 06:51 PM	#3
CTQuattro Audiworld Junior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 43	I have a4 Avant and allroad; new cars every 2-3 years... It's pretty simple; lease on my wife's allroad is up in April 2007, if there is no allroad or similar vehicle (not the a6 avant tip) from audi, good chance she'll get a 530xi or e500. Both offer more performace in a luxury wagon than the a6 avant. And that 5,000+ lb piggy Q7 is not a viable alternative. If the new c6 platform allroad came here with a manual tranny I would trade my a4 in tomorrow (owned) and we would be a 2-allroad family __________________ Present: 2007 Q7 3.6 2007 X3 3.0 6MT Past: 2004 allroad 2.7 Auto 2003 A4 Avant Quattro Sport 5MT 1994 Toyota Land Cruiser 1993 Range Rover LWB 1994 90 Quattro Sport 5MT 1989 200 Turbo Quattro 5MT 1985 4000 Quattro 5MT 1985 GT Coupe 5MT

03-31-2006, 06:00 AM	#4
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03-30-2006, 02:41 PM	#5
grey-2002-ar-6sp AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,079	I very much appreciate the open reply, and hope that the sentiments that we all expressed... ...take permanent root, and lead to new successes for Audi. (in case the folks at Audi are wondering, I'm the writer who was rather strident in his preference for a manual trans awd mid-sized avant

03-30-2006, 03:33 PM	#6
Troy H AudiWorld Super User Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 13,491	Agreed 100%. A C-platform wagon with a manual tranny is vital to Audi's long-term success vs. BMW and even the Japanese, once they catch on to the wagon craze (Subaru obviously excepted, since they've been there all along). __________________ "However I do realize that a woman, particularly one with whom you have exchanged marriage vows, can not be reasoned with using logic, examples, data, or any other means except to agree." - RMcQ "Any car that merely takes you from A to B does not go far enough." - August Horch Want to see my skills of an artist? I make detailing fun! Klicken Sie hier für meine Detailing FAQ: 2.0Tq DSG/Prestige/S-Line/MagRide/Heated Seats:

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03-30-2006, 04:56 PM	#7
ex-Burgundy03 New Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 26	Re: Agreed 100%. A C-platform wagon with a manual tranny is vital to Audi's long-term success vs. BM Couldn't agree more!! My '03 ar 6 speed lease ended in January. Guess whats in my driveway now???? BMW 530 wagon with 6 speed!!!! Now I've been a loyal Audi driver for a long time - and if the new ar or A6 Avant was available with a manual shift, guess what I'd be driving today? Now I hate to say it (as a long-time Audi lover), but this bimmer is one nice ride!!! I like it so much that I may have been converted from a loyal Audi customer to a loyal BMW customer - all for the lack of a manual shift car. Also, if Mr. de Nysschen is reading - the free maintenance which you used to offer, and BMW currently does is another big selling point in BMW's favor. I think the North American corporate offices of the European manufacturers need to look beyond the sales numbers alone on a particular model. I am a car nut (currently have 5 cars) and many friends ask my advice about car purchases. Many of us here are in the same position. The cost of certifying a car all of us enthusiasts want to buy would pay off exponentially in the number of referral sales and "goodwill" we all bring through our enthusiasm. I hope to have another Audi sometime in the future. For now, I'll just have to enjoy my clutch pedal and shifter in my new BMW.

03-30-2006, 04:35 PM	#8
downindenver AudiWorld Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Denver Posts: 720	I'm one of the others with the same preference... An avant with a manual transmission and decent power (read - better acceleration than the current allroad or upcoming Q7). I'd forego the offroad capability just to have the manual transmision. And the S4 avant isn't big enough to be versatile. __________________ -Josh _______________ Old Sig

03-30-2006, 03:42 PM	#9
allestraÃŸe AudiWorld Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 584	Whether or not we agree on everything is irrelevant, you have my respect for acknowledging a .. relatively small, but extremely vocal and enthusiastic segment of your customer base. Whether or not I buy Audi products in the future (we currently have more than Audi vehicle, in common with many other members of this forum) will depend on a number of factors, but knowing that AoA senior management is prepared to listen to customers is a factor for me. You will already have heard from many of my co-posters that the allroad is a very special and unique vehicle. I still enjoy driving mine after 4.5 years. There is nothing else out there in the marketplace that interests me, so the allroad will most likely be with me for some time to come. Thanks to Audi for producing this great car and I hope circumstances change sufficiently for you to consider re-introducing the allroad for the non-SUV crowd once the Q7 is established.

03-30-2006, 10:28 PM	#10
K2audi AudiWorld Super User 2006 Audi allroad Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,483	This is our first Audi, and I can say.... that we hope to be Audi owners for many years to come. I have never owned a car that I like so much as our allroad. It pretty much does everything I want and does it in style. I constantly have people commenting about it's style, utility, driving capabilities, and that the allroad is such a unique car. Like they say......there is Quattro and then there is everything else __________________ 2006 allroad, 3.0 TDI, 45 mpg @ 70 mph and pulls like a freight train :-) "Gone but not Forgotten" 2007 Q7 4.2, Garnet Red - The 1st customers to do Audi European Delivery 12/11/2006 2006 S4 Avant, Sprint Blue, 6sp. Manual 2002 allroad "Olympic Edition" Sprint Blue 2.7T w/ tip 2006 A4 Avant, S-Line w/ DTM front bumper "Vorsprung durch Technik" "Any car that merely takes you from A to B does not go far enough." - August Horch

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