Did a bit of rear suspension work over the weekend...

akula-ssh · 04-25-2005, 06:41 AM

I've been running my Koni/Neuspeed Sport for a while now, and the rear of my car has always been sitting uncharacteristically low at around 24-3/4" ground to fender:

Since it's actually low enough that I rub the liner every now and then, I decided I have to do something about it. Short of buying a set of coilovers, which I might well do in the future, I thought I'd experiment a little, and made myself a couple "spacers" at a mech shop...

The stainless steel spacers were dimensioned to sit in between the car and the upper spring seat (which is the rubber piece). Since I know I've been sitting on the bumpstops, I had to take a guess as to how thick to make the spacer. Lucky for me, the 2cm (about 3/4") I decided upon worked perfectly and brought my car up to 25" ground to fender now...

O, and did I say the handling has improved? As well, the rear suspension now soaks up bumps better than when I was sitting on the stops?

Matt Devo · 04-25-2005, 07:08 AM

WinnerAudi18 · 04-25-2005, 07:08 AM

akula-ssh · 04-25-2005, 07:11 AM

WinnerAudi18 · 04-25-2005, 07:19 AM

Eddie Man · 04-25-2005, 07:20 AM

One question though; In your pic, you have the rubber base sitting on your custom spacer...
But doesn't the spacer actually fit/sit upside down as you've shown it?
What I mean, spacer female pocket on male coil arm nub, then rubber base female pocket on custom spacer male nub?

Frank1 · 04-25-2005, 07:46 AM

Eddie Man,
Just lookin at your pictures of the rear spring and shock and notice you can't adjust them for height like you can the front coilover, is this the norm, I thought coilovers came the same all round like your front ones and if any height adjustment is required you have to use a spanner?
Thanks.

Bob Loblaw · 04-25-2005, 07:54 AM

akula-ssh uncovered!!

plus

j/k!

Nice work!

shadyraven · 04-25-2005, 08:18 AM

Eddie Man · 04-25-2005, 08:24 AM

Rears are indeed adjustable...
In this pic, the gray circular pieces in the box are the spring base purches (they take the place of the OEM rubber bases) and they have height adjustable collars by spinning the collared thread to the desired height.

The suspension design of the B6s are considerably different when it comes to the spring/damper setup...
Some other cars, they are similar where both front & back concentric spring/damper setups can be used.
For example, Miata's Spring/Damper Configuration:

One thing however that is a detriment IMO, is that the range of adjustablility is much larger for the fronts as it is for the rears...
Rears is approx. +/- 0.75"
Fronts is approx. +/- 2".

But anyways, that's a minor point in that the 2" range is really not useable.

04-25-2005, 06:41 AM	#1
akula-ssh Member Account #: 70933 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,699	Did a bit of rear suspension work over the weekend... I've been running my Koni/Neuspeed Sport for a while now, and the rear of my car has always been sitting uncharacteristically low at around 24-3/4" ground to fender: Since it's actually low enough that I rub the liner every now and then, I decided I have to do something about it. Short of buying a set of coilovers, which I might well do in the future, I thought I'd experiment a little, and made myself a couple "spacers" at a mech shop... The stainless steel spacers were dimensioned to sit in between the car and the upper spring seat (which is the rubber piece). Since I know I've been sitting on the bumpstops, I had to take a guess as to how thick to make the spacer. Lucky for me, the 2cm (about 3/4") I decided upon worked perfectly and brought my car up to 25" ground to fender now... O, and did I say the handling has improved? As well, the rear suspension now soaks up bumps better than when I was sitting on the stops? __________________ List of 3.0 owners on AW compiled by A4AdMan <big>2002 Audi A4 Avant 3.0 Quattro Tiptronic</big> Premium package, sport package, xenon headlights Modifications to date: Neuspeed Sport springs Koni shocks (50% all around) H-Sport anti-roll bars custom stainless steel rear upper spring seat spacer Silver OZ Superleggera 18x8 Sumitomo HTR Z III 235/40-18 95Y XL (current summer) Toyo T1R 235/40-18 95Y (previous summer) Falken GRB FK-451 235/40-18 91Y (previous summer) Dunlop SP WinterSport M2 235/45-17 94H (winter) Supersprint resonator and mufflers (quick video clip here) BMC CDA intake Alcon B Type calipers Coleman Racing 13x1.25" 2-piece rotors Carbotech XP8 brake pads aluminum interior trim black bumper grill opened driver side foglight grill (from 1.8T) auto-dimming blind-spot Euro side mirrors bi-xenon E-code headlights Ultraleds (ultraleds.co.uk) 1W LED H6W bulbs Sylvania SilverStar H7 (high beams) Stealth blinker bulbs 7507 (front and rear) Hüper Optik Ceramic 60 and Sech (metal) tint My alignment specs Writeup on load equalizers mounted inside e-code housing

04-25-2005, 07:08 AM	#2
Matt Devo Senior Member Account #: 52813 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 6,878	I'd pay $$ for a set of those - sent you an email __________________ ------------- 2002 A4 1.8T 5M. 130k miles and counting AIM/Gamertag: denimA4turbo

04-25-2005, 07:08 AM	#3
WinnerAudi18 New Member Account #: 87413 Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 62	Im having the same problem. Where did you get those?

04-25-2005, 07:11 AM	#4
akula-ssh Member Account #: 70933 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,699	I just had them made at a mechanical shop I have access to __________________ List of 3.0 owners on AW compiled by A4AdMan <big>2002 Audi A4 Avant 3.0 Quattro Tiptronic</big> Premium package, sport package, xenon headlights Modifications to date: Neuspeed Sport springs Koni shocks (50% all around) H-Sport anti-roll bars custom stainless steel rear upper spring seat spacer Silver OZ Superleggera 18x8 Sumitomo HTR Z III 235/40-18 95Y XL (current summer) Toyo T1R 235/40-18 95Y (previous summer) Falken GRB FK-451 235/40-18 91Y (previous summer) Dunlop SP WinterSport M2 235/45-17 94H (winter) Supersprint resonator and mufflers (quick video clip here) BMC CDA intake Alcon B Type calipers Coleman Racing 13x1.25" 2-piece rotors Carbotech XP8 brake pads aluminum interior trim black bumper grill opened driver side foglight grill (from 1.8T) auto-dimming blind-spot Euro side mirrors bi-xenon E-code headlights Ultraleds (ultraleds.co.uk) 1W LED H6W bulbs Sylvania SilverStar H7 (high beams) Stealth blinker bulbs 7507 (front and rear) Hüper Optik Ceramic 60 and Sech (metal) tint My alignment specs Writeup on load equalizers mounted inside e-code housing

04-25-2005, 07:19 AM	#5
WinnerAudi18 New Member Account #: 87413 Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 62	Dude how much .. I would buy a set

04-25-2005, 07:20 AM	#6
Eddie Man Member Account #: 10568 Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 6,557	That's a one fine piece of custom work and very ingenious:)... One question though; In your pic, you have the rubber base sitting on your custom spacer... But doesn't the spacer actually fit/sit upside down as you've shown it? What I mean, spacer female pocket on male coil arm nub, then rubber base female pocket on custom spacer male nub? __________________ 2006 S4 Avant: dolphin gray \| 6speed \| alcantara \| premium \| cold \| bose \| sirius \| navigation \| bluetooth \| parktronic \| ebony \| carbon fiber Performance: Milltek.50%NonResonated \| Milltek.DPw/HFC \| ECS.2PieceRotors \| EBC.RedStuff \| H-Sport.RS4Sways Strat.CAI \| JHM.SolidSS \| SSBrakeLines \| ECS.Snub \| Bridgestone.RE050A \| Bilstein.PSS9 \| LaunchVidClips \| ServotronicMod Cosmetic: CF.Splitter \| RS4Knob \| Debadged"V8" \| RS4Pedals \| VMR.19"B7.RS4s \| Eurolites \| Armourfend.Bra \| 5400kD1S XenonFogs \| PennyMod \| SmokedReflectors \| S4CaliperSpring \| RS4Grille \| OEM.EngineCovers \| LOSTLINKS :(

04-25-2005, 07:46 AM	#7
Frank1 New Member Account #: 52054 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 176	Re: That's a one fine piece of custom work and very ingenious:)... Eddie Man, Just lookin at your pictures of the rear spring and shock and notice you can't adjust them for height like you can the front coilover, is this the norm, I thought coilovers came the same all round like your front ones and if any height adjustment is required you have to use a spanner? Thanks.

04-25-2005, 07:54 AM	#8
Bob Loblaw Senior Member Account #: 42205 Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,194	! akula-ssh uncovered!! plus j/k! Nice work! __________________

04-25-2005, 08:18 AM	#9
shadyraven Senior Member Account #: 37283 Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 7,025	LOL! __________________

04-25-2005, 08:24 AM	#10
Eddie Man Member Account #: 10568 Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 6,557	Yes & no... Rears are indeed adjustable... In this pic, the gray circular pieces in the box are the spring base purches (they take the place of the OEM rubber bases) and they have height adjustable collars by spinning the collared thread to the desired height. The suspension design of the B6s are considerably different when it comes to the spring/damper setup... Some other cars, they are similar where both front & back concentric spring/damper setups can be used. For example, Miata's Spring/Damper Configuration: One thing however that is a detriment IMO, is that the range of adjustablility is much larger for the fronts as it is for the rears... Rears is approx. +/- 0.75" Fronts is approx. +/- 2". But anyways, that's a minor point in that the 2" range is really not useable. __________________ 2006 S4 Avant: dolphin gray \| 6speed \| alcantara \| premium \| cold \| bose \| sirius \| navigation \| bluetooth \| parktronic \| ebony \| carbon fiber Performance: Milltek.50%NonResonated \| Milltek.DPw/HFC \| ECS.2PieceRotors \| EBC.RedStuff \| H-Sport.RS4Sways Strat.CAI \| JHM.SolidSS \| SSBrakeLines \| ECS.Snub \| Bridgestone.RE050A \| Bilstein.PSS9 \| LaunchVidClips \| ServotronicMod Cosmetic: CF.Splitter \| RS4Knob \| Debadged"V8" \| RS4Pedals \| VMR.19"B7.RS4s \| Eurolites \| Armourfend.Bra \| 5400kD1S XenonFogs \| PennyMod \| SmokedReflectors \| S4CaliperSpring \| RS4Grille \| OEM.EngineCovers \| LOSTLINKS :(

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