Launch control class action?
11-16-2013, 05:40 PM
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I think the fact that Audi actually included launch control in the car and was kind enough to explain how to do in the manual is enough, regardless if you are allowed to only do it 20 times or 200 times.
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11-17-2013, 02:11 AM
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It would be like me selling you a washing machine, saying it is 10x faster then any other washing machine you can buy for the price with its new "turbo" cycle and then after 200 washes you find out your turbo cycle doesn't work.
Is that not bait and switch at its core?
11-17-2013, 04:20 AM
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This is really an interesting discussion. Firstly, the whole launch control thing is a relatively new phenomenon. Think about what's going on here mechanically. There is no doubt that this kind of launch is going to be shock to the transmission and driveline. It is no different, however, than revving up the motor and dropping the clutch in a manual transmission car.
How often do you think you can do that before something breaks? Probably not even close to 200 times in a factory built car.
The fact that Audi has limited it, is, in fact, to their credit. Your car is protected from might otherwise be some serious repair costs. And if you want to propose that Audi should have built a transmission and driveline that can withstand an infinite number of such launches, then you won't be getting such a car for $80k.
The S6 is really a tremendous value, but don't expect it to offer what a car costing $30-40k more might offer.
How often do you think you can do that before something breaks? Probably not even close to 200 times in a factory built car.
The fact that Audi has limited it, is, in fact, to their credit. Your car is protected from might otherwise be some serious repair costs. And if you want to propose that Audi should have built a transmission and driveline that can withstand an infinite number of such launches, then you won't be getting such a car for $80k.
The S6 is really a tremendous value, but don't expect it to offer what a car costing $30-40k more might offer.
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11-17-2013, 05:37 AM
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We do get most of their performance cars actually. If you think about the amount of S/RS models they have brought over in the past couple years we have been very fortunate. However, if we keep acting like little babies complaining about stupid little things, theres no reason for them to continue doing so.
As a supposed member of the "class", I have zero interest in a lawsuit. The parameters Audi have put on the car, including launch mode sound perfectly reasonable to me.
11-17-2013, 10:34 AM
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I'm with Vijay on this one. Alex, you are essentially blaming the lack of US RS cars on your customers, which is just as ridiculous as this thread. Everything I've heard, read, and discussed says its a number of factors including regulations, sales volume, customer interest, currency, AoA leadership and the dealership network. I seriously doubt Audi would pull S cars that have been here for a while now because of a few silly people who post on a forum. If that were the case there would be no cars here at all.
As a supposed member of the "class", I have zero interest in a lawsuit. The parameters Audi have put on the car, including launch mode sound perfectly reasonable to me.
As a supposed member of the "class", I have zero interest in a lawsuit. The parameters Audi have put on the car, including launch mode sound perfectly reasonable to me.
11-17-2013, 02:47 PM
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This is really an interesting discussion. Firstly, the whole launch control thing is a relatively new phenomenon. Think about what's going on here mechanically. There is no doubt that this kind of launch is going to be shock to the transmission and driveline. It is no different, however, than revving up the motor and dropping the clutch in a manual transmission car.
How often do you think you can do that before something breaks? Probably not even close to 200 times in a factory built car.
The fact that Audi has limited it, is, in fact, to their credit. Your car is protected from might otherwise be some serious repair costs. And if want to propose that Audi should have built a transmission and driveline that can withstand an infinite number of such launches, then you won't be getting such a car for $80k.
The S6 is really a tremendous value, but don't expect it to offer what a car costing $30-40k more might offer.
How often do you think you can do that before something breaks? Probably not even close to 200 times in a factory built car.
The fact that Audi has limited it, is, in fact, to their credit. Your car is protected from might otherwise be some serious repair costs. And if want to propose that Audi should have built a transmission and driveline that can withstand an infinite number of such launches, then you won't be getting such a car for $80k.
The S6 is really a tremendous value, but don't expect it to offer what a car costing $30-40k more might offer.
11-17-2013, 02:49 PM
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This is really an interesting discussion. Firstly, the whole launch control thing is a relatively new phenomenon. Think about what's going on here mechanically. There is no doubt that this kind of launch is going to be shock to the transmission and driveline. It is no different, however, than revving up the motor and dropping the clutch in a manual transmission car.
How often do you think you can do that before something breaks? Probably not even close to 200 times in a factory built car.
The fact that Audi has limited it, is, in fact, to their credit. Your car is protected from might otherwise be some serious repair costs. And if want to propose that Audi should have built a transmission and driveline that can withstand an infinite number of such launches, then you won't be getting such a car for $80k.
The S6 is really a tremendous value, but don't expect it to offer what a car costing $30-40k more might offer.
How often do you think you can do that before something breaks? Probably not even close to 200 times in a factory built car.
The fact that Audi has limited it, is, in fact, to their credit. Your car is protected from might otherwise be some serious repair costs. And if want to propose that Audi should have built a transmission and driveline that can withstand an infinite number of such launches, then you won't be getting such a car for $80k.
The S6 is really a tremendous value, but don't expect it to offer what a car costing $30-40k more might offer.
An 80k Porsche has 2k launches, Once again I would have been fine with the 200 launches if they would have said, "there are 200 launches" the reason I am bitter is because I don't have launch control any more to every one else this is not an issue as no one else launched their car as much as I did. This is just a way of Audi getting out of replacing a DSG if it breaks (under warranty since it would have broken under 50k), rather then disclosing that the transmission can't hold the power after x number of launches
I mean I will find a way around the programming and unlock the launch control again, but it is very annoying having a feature removed when it was one I used regularly.
To me a cost of a DSG is not that big of a deal when it comes to finding the limits of the car, but once again I like to push the envelope and I know not many are willing to go as far so I am.
11-18-2013, 10:35 AM
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An 80k Porsche has 2k launches, Once again I would have been fine with the 200 launches if they would have said, "there are 200 launches" the reason I am bitter is because I don't have launch control any more to every one else this is not an issue as no one else launched their car as much as I did.
The only reason we found out was because of the forum, imagine how many others don't even know they're approaching this SECRET Limit and about to lose a major feature of their car.
Audi can create whatever limit they want, they just have to TELL THEIR CUSTOMERS ABOUT IT, not just disable the feature when it hits 200
The instructions are in the manual. I wonder what other instructions in the manual have secret LIMITS on them? How many times can I roll down my windows before they disable themselves?
I'd join a class, but i'm Canadian so not sure if that helps
11-18-2013, 05:53 PM
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An 80k Porsche has 2k launches, Once again I would have been fine with the 200 launches if they would have said, "there are 200 launches" the reason I am bitter is because I don't have launch control any more to every one else this is not an issue as no one else launched their car as much as I did. This is just a way of Audi getting out of replacing a DSG if it breaks (under warranty since it would have broken under 50k), rather then disclosing that the transmission can't hold the power after x number of launches
I mean I will find a way around the programming and unlock the launch control again, but it is very annoying having a feature removed when it was one I used regularly.
To me a cost of a DSG is not that big of a deal when it comes to finding the limits of the car, but once again I like to push the envelope and I know not many are willing to go as far so I am.
I mean I will find a way around the programming and unlock the launch control again, but it is very annoying having a feature removed when it was one I used regularly.
To me a cost of a DSG is not that big of a deal when it comes to finding the limits of the car, but once again I like to push the envelope and I know not many are willing to go as far so I am.
11-18-2013, 07:43 PM
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200 Launches is an okay limit, as long as you TELL THE CUSTOMERS
The only reason we found out was because of the forum, imagine how many others don't even know they're approaching this SECRET Limit and about to lose a major feature of their car.
Audi can create whatever limit they want, they just have to TELL THEIR CUSTOMERS ABOUT IT, not just disable the feature when it hits 200
The instructions are in the manual. I wonder what other instructions in the manual have secret LIMITS on them? How many times can I roll down my windows before they disable themselves?
I'd join a class, but i'm Canadian so not sure if that helps
The only reason we found out was because of the forum, imagine how many others don't even know they're approaching this SECRET Limit and about to lose a major feature of their car.
Audi can create whatever limit they want, they just have to TELL THEIR CUSTOMERS ABOUT IT, not just disable the feature when it hits 200
The instructions are in the manual. I wonder what other instructions in the manual have secret LIMITS on them? How many times can I roll down my windows before they disable themselves?
I'd join a class, but i'm Canadian so not sure if that helps
This thread is really starting to sound like a bunch of whining over something of relatively little import. You own a ridiculously awesome car, enjoy it, be glad your house didn't just get flattened by a tornado, be happy that you have the means to afford a luxury, stop bitching about nothing.