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    With all this talk of Downpipes lately, it seems there is a lot of confusion...
    Posted by: ryans4 on 2002-03-11 14:59:13
    Account #: 4359

    After reading this post

    It seems that lots of people don't know much about what each downpipe kit offers.

    I've been collecting information (pre-purchase research) and this is what I've found so far.

    ***Any corrections to my information are appreciated.***

    I just want to have everyone on the same page.

    I've put each option against a list of features that seem to cover a portion of each aftermarket downpipe system.

    Those features are:

    1. Increased pipe diameter over stock?
    2. Removal of Pre-Cats?
    3. O2 sensor location fore and after cat?
    (this will allow ANY ECU to run with the downpipes)
    4. Test-Pipe Option?
    5. Flex Joints?
    6. Cat Type
    7. Cost?

    So now how does each option (that I'm aware of) stack up?

    Stock System
    Diameter = <2.25" (I believe)
    Pre-Cats = YES
    O2 Sensor location fore and aft of cats = YES
    Test Pipes = NO
    Flex Joints = YES (metal mesh/bellows-type)
    Cat Type = Pre = Metal, Main = Ceramic
    Cost = Nothing, you already have them.

    APR
    Diameter = 2.5" (I believe)
    Pre-Cats = NO
    O2 Sensor location fore and aft of cats = NO
    Test Pipes = YES
    Flex Joints = YES (metal mesh/bellows-type)
    Cat Type = ?
    Cost = $1600

    AWE
    Diameter = taper from 3" to 2.5"
    Pre-Cats = NO
    02 Sensor location fore and aft of cats = YES
    Test Pipes = YES
    Flex Joints = YES (ball/socket joint)
    Cat Type = 400 cell per inch Ceramic Matrix
    Cost = $1595

    JP Engineering
    Diameter = taper from 3" to 2.5"
    Pre-Cats = NO
    O2 Sensor location fore and aft of cats = YES
    Test Pipes = NO
    Flex Joints = YES (metal mesh/bellows-type)
    Cat Type = Carsound (400cpi Ceramic)
    Cost = $1350

    Milltek
    Diameter = 2.3" (60mm)
    Pre-Cats = NO
    O2 Sensor Location fore and aft of cats = They say YES, but it doesn't look like it from the PICS. But we'll go with YES since they claim it.
    Test Pipes = NO
    Flex Joints = YES (metal mesh/bellows-type)
    Cat Type = continuous stainless steel cores
    Cost = $1865

    MTM
    Diameter = ?
    Pre-Cats = NO
    O2 Sensor location fore and aft of cats = ?
    Test Pipes = ?
    Flex Joints = YES (not sure what type)
    Cat Type = ?
    Cost = $6900 (part of there Stage 3 package)

    RS4
    Diameter = ?
    Pre-Cats = YES
    O2 Sensor location fore and aft of cats = YES
    Test Pipes = NO
    Flex Joints = YES (metal mesh/bellows-type)
    Cat Type = ?
    Cost = $3000
    (cost is from this post

    That about sums it up.

    Corrections are encouraged (after all, we should all know the right information).

    I'm not trying to start a war (or am I?), just trying to get the cold hard numbers.

    Can one of you RS4 downpipe junkies post information about the pipes, I know nothing about these.

    FWIW...

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