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No, I doubt I'd get any gains. But Silvas are cheaper and easier to install.

Posted by: DAP on 2006-05-17 11:50:15
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In Reply to: Dave, do you think you'd get a large gain from switching from RS4s to Silvas? posted by christian (Stage 1) on 2006-05-17 11:49:06

Intercooler BT: best option for SMICs? - christian (Stage 1) 2006-05-17 11:34:15 (553 views)

I just did installs on AWEs (My car) and RS4 (friend's car). The RS4 intercoolers took twice as - ErikS4 2006-05-17 19:35:42 (537 views)

Look at DAP's post on all the MarkP template graph from EPL dyno day, IAT graph - Ah10 =@ KimChee Mo 2006-05-17 16:38:43 (352 views)

Opps, didnt see markp already have one out! - Ah10 =@ KimChee Mo 2006-05-17 16:49:21 (268 views)

IPP... The before and after dyno runs do not lie. - Bruno_S4 2006-05-17 13:50:06 (1359 views)

got a link? price? anything else? - SmokinS4 2006-05-19 11:12:20 (330 views)

$820 Shipped, E-mail me... - S4Poor/deux@Curbside 2006-05-19 11:13:45 (459 views)

Well, I was thinking I would click on your post and read some clearly - S4tranquility 2006-05-17 20:41:23 (322 views)

Isnt everyone bias a little here? - Visti 2006-05-18 05:19:32 (286 views)

You're right. No doubt about it. Almost everyone hypes whatever they have... - S4tranquility 2006-05-18 05:55:20 (240 views)

i prefer to recommend what works.... - Snow Trooper @ TOU 2006-05-18 08:50:18 (274 views)

Well, Bruno recommened what worked for him - Visti 2006-05-18 08:59:05 (224 views)

thats good - Snow Trooper @ TOU 2006-05-18 09:57:24 (230 views)

yes - Visti 2006-05-18 10:04:42 (256 views)

You know they are "not unproven", but tests against the RS4 or AWE would be - Milpitas2.7T 2006-05-17 13:58:05 (357 views)

True. A back to back test may never happen. - Bruno_S4 2006-05-17 15:20:18 (253 views)

Bang for the Buck. Key words here. Sure, piggie pipes don't give you as much power as ASP/AWE's... - reefer_bob 2006-05-17 13:56:14 (507 views)

That about says it all reefer_bob - Bruno_S4 2006-05-17 15:21:11 (344 views)

Reposting this info here..... I lined up the IAT curves from the K04'd cars at EPL.... - Mark P 2006-05-17 12:58:37 (2006 views)

Awesome info, Mark. That dyno day generated lots of great logs. - christian (Stage 1) 2006-05-17 13:36:00 (279 views)

w0w great work Mark. Too bad the cars are not running the same boost - Milpitas2.7T 2006-05-17 13:22:41 (259 views)

Matt has an RS4 front... the rest were standard S4 bumpers. - DAP 2006-05-17 13:24:08 (212 views)

wow....great stuff! - Ray Khan 2006-05-17 13:14:44 (293 views)

Mark, that is a very solid post! Too bad we don't have something like that for Silva's! - reefer_bob 2006-05-17 13:09:16 (229 views)

AWE this is why I chose them - Vtec_Killer 2006-05-17 12:57:19 (439 views)

Less cutting, but not no cutting. - DAP 2006-05-17 13:04:58 (286 views)

Correct and Fred who installed them? - Milpitas2.7T 2006-05-17 13:05:24 (250 views)

Local shop on El Camino - Vtec_Killer 2006-05-17 13:07:06 (249 views)

No cutting/fitting with Silvas either - Visti 2006-05-17 13:03:41 (283 views)

ummm, how'd you manage that? they require cutting also. - Steve Trac 2006-05-17 13:03:32 (319 views)

Fine, MUCH less than the RS4s - Vtec_Killer 2006-05-17 14:15:45 (240 views)

honestly, it's a *little* less cutting. read all the installation directions. - Steve Trac 2006-05-17 14:16:47 (229 views)

Haha thanks man, I didn't have to post that link this time =) - box_of_partS4 2006-05-17 13:41:49 (300 views)

for $820 shipped, i most likely will be going with the silva option... - djillusion 2006-05-17 12:52:21 (390 views)

christian you know me, i try to be straight up about stuff. AWEs are spendy, but are the best IMO - Snow Trooper @ TOU 2006-05-17 12:44:02 (294 views)

Are you running AWE ICs, Jared? - christian (Stage 1) 2006-05-17 13:34:31 (242 views)

yes, ever since stage 2 - Snow Trooper @ TOU 2006-05-17 16:52:19 (244 views)

IPP. $820 shipped, and the quality is excellent. - S4Poor/deux@Curbside 2006-05-17 12:39:06 (309 views)

Achtuning/Hartmann has a ton of APR RS4 IC kits in stock!!! - JoshD@S4.org 2006-05-17 12:23:41 (320 views)

... that they should put in a group buy. - quickaudi 2006-05-17 16:24:29 (292 views)

ALL things considered ..at this point Silva and Rs4 are top choises imo. (silva#1) - lemieux@curbside 2006-05-17 12:08:31 (288 views)

if you can hold out a month i might have another viable option. - DVS27T [evolving] 2006-05-17 11:53:16 (364 views)

See - now that's what I was hoping for. I can wait a month. Is it a SMIC? :) - christian (Stage 1) 2006-05-17 12:03:11 (254 views)

yes they are side mounts. - DVS27T [evolving] 2006-05-17 12:09:07 (270 views)

Sweet - keep me posted. Feel free to email me when you get more info. - christian (Stage 1) 2006-05-17 12:13:05 (266 views)

i will post up when the prototypes are done and i can get some data on them - DVS27T [evolving] 2006-05-17 12:17:11 (317 views)

Awesome. Hope to see some info soon. - christian (Stage 1) 2006-05-17 12:25:13 (200 views)

go proven...AWE or RS4 IC's - EvilEmpirE::WMS 2006-05-17 11:43:05 (314 views)

proven? I think the silva dyno numbers have been impressive as well - Milpitas2.7T 2006-05-17 11:49:21 (338 views)

NO DATA. - DVS27T [evolving] 2006-05-17 12:14:55 (312 views)

If X = stock * 1.10 and Y = stock * 1.15 then Y > X. - DAP 2006-05-17 12:17:43 (282 views)

imho i think IATs are still too high at this point in time. its a shame that damn AC canister is - DVS27T [evolving] 2006-05-17 12:22:44 (328 views)

Yes, our engine bays are very space limited, unfortunately. - DAP 2006-05-17 12:25:29 (321 views)

agreed, but IMHO there are so many varriables per car, you need a large sample size to really - 'Nova S4 (Greg) 2006-05-17 12:22:05 (314 views)

maybe be installed, tested w/ logs, dyno numbers, on more than what 5 cars? - 'Nova S4 (Greg) 2006-05-17 11:57:04 (253 views)

more data than say - EvilEmpirE::WMS 2006-05-17 11:55:33 (312 views)

no but you mentioned something that had to do with AWE/giac that makes you the antichrist - DVS27T [evolving] 2006-05-17 12:18:53 (446 views)

Man you have your head so buried in your trowsers that it's not even funny. - Milpitas2.7T 2006-05-17 13:17:31 (252 views)

yeah head buried, along with the rest of the people who can see the exact same thing i am - DVS27T [evolving] 2006-05-17 13:39:20 (337 views)

the custom ones you want are exactly what the silvas are. - internecine 2006-05-17 11:39:12 (411 views)

I've had my eye on Silvas. They did seem like the best bet out there. - christian (Stage 1) 2006-05-17 11:42:04 (380 views)

Curbside Tooning recommends Silvas. - curbside crackdealer 2006-05-17 18:28:52 (269 views)

you said SMIC in your post. Autospeed is working on an FMIC. - Steve Trac 2006-05-17 11:49:11 (296 views)

SMICs will be popular for now but I have a feeling than FMICs will become the trend - ImolaboutPower 2006-05-17 12:34:52 (390 views)

My concern with FMIC is California Smog law... - reefer_bob 2006-05-17 13:11:08 (305 views)

i passed with a giant FMIC on my A4. no issues. i think open element intake would be more of an - DVS27T [evolving] 2006-05-17 13:40:05 (303 views)

I know... thats what scares me about my X-1 Intake... :( - reefer_bob 2006-05-17 13:48:42 (640 views)

Talk to the man 6 posts down in this thread...aka - SAC-CA-S4 2006-05-17 15:17:35 (270 views)

Not if you get referred to a referee station directly. - FunkWeasel 2006-05-17 15:24:30 (256 views)

I'm skiddish, cause I've had the CHP take a picture of my engine bay and send me to a state ref... - reefer_bob 2006-05-17 15:35:49 (249 views)

how does that come into play? - Steve Trac 2006-05-17 13:13:04 (255 views)

Guessing more visible and not CARB approved. - DAP 2006-05-17 13:15:52 (300 views)

Bingo! - reefer_bob 2006-05-17 13:23:47 (385 views)

Correct and CA will nail ya (they have not nailed me yet, but come to think of it) - Milpitas2.7T 2006-05-17 13:23:38 (311 views)

powdercoat it black :) - Steve Trac 2006-05-17 13:17:03 (323 views)

I wouldn't recommend that at all. Either anodize it or just leave it. - FunkWeasel 2006-05-17 13:44:08 (285 views)

2nd. the ER FMIC will have an option for black anodize. - DVS27T [evolving] 2006-05-17 13:57:26 (506 views)

Definately an option, still not ideal (for me)... - reefer_bob 2006-05-17 13:24:49 (234 views)

Yep. I was hoping the "future releases" FMIC hubbub might cause some SMIC rumors to fly. :) - christian (Stage 1) 2006-05-17 11:53:19 (280 views)

I'm happy with my RS4s but if I were in the market now, Silvas would definitely have my eye. - DAP 2006-05-17 11:44:56 (371 views)

Dave, do you think you'd get a large gain from switching from RS4s to Silvas? - christian (Stage 1) 2006-05-17 11:49:06 (270 views)

No, I doubt I'd get any gains. But Silvas are cheaper and easier to install. - DAP 2006-05-17 11:50:15 (275 views)

So we figure RS4/Silva are about the same? What about AWEs? You get any good data from Mark? - christian (Stage 1) 2006-05-17 12:01:21 (322 views)

Everything I've seen points to the AWE ICs being comparable in performance to the RS4 ICs. - DAP 2006-05-17 12:05:07 (350 views)

I ended up going with AWE just because of what was available when I got them. - 'Nova S4 (Greg) 2006-05-17 12:24:42 (287 views)

there was ever a shortage of RS4 ICs??? - Steve Trac 2006-05-17 12:26:32 (228 views)

of course... - EvilEmpirE::WMS 2006-05-17 12:34:30 (316 views)

Thanks Dave. Good info as always. - christian (Stage 1) 2006-05-17 12:12:52 (249 views)

well put D. - lemieux@curbside 2006-05-17 12:11:49 (240 views)

APR = RS4. those are your current options. - Steve Trac 2006-05-17 11:36:20 (404 views)

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