S4 / RS4 (B5 Platform) Discussion Discussion forum for the B5 Audi S4 & RS4 produced from 1998-2002

Results from my 68k oil analysis (8k interval, 6 track days, Mobil 1 0W40)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-27-2006, 05:40 PM
  #1  
Rest In Peace
Thread Starter
 
O.W. Kenobi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 19,404
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Results from my 68k oil analysis (8k interval, 6 track days, Mobil 1 0W40)

Last time, I ran my interval a little long (9073 miles) and had a resulting increase in iron (32ppm). They chastised me a bit and recommended an 8k interval this time. Here are the results:

"We have nothing but good news to report in the latest sample from your Audi. Iron dropped nicely and all other wear remained steady, reading right around average for this type of engine. That's a very good indication that your 2.7L engine has normally wearing parts and is being operated carefully. Insolubles (mostly oil oxidation due to heat and use) were low at 0.2%, showing good oil filtration. The viscosity read well within the normal range for a 0W/40 oil and no fuel dilution or anti-freeze was present. At 68,137 total miles, this engine is doing very well."

(ppm; number in parentheses is the average):

Aluminum - 3 (3)
Chromium - 1 (1)
Iron - 18 (20)
Copper - 8 (5)
Lead - 0 (0)
Tin - 0 (0)
Moly - 62 (62)
Nickel - 0 (0)
Manganese - 0 (0)
Silver - 0 (0)
Titanium - 0 (0)
Potassium - 1 (1)
Boron - 98 (103)
Silicon - 8 (9)
Sodium - 2 (4)
Calcium - 2236 (2486)
Magnesium - 12 (29)
Phosphorous - 659 (685)
Zinc - 759 (820)
Barium - 0 (0)

SUS Viscosity - 66.7 deg. F (should be 65-76)
Flashpoint - 400 deg. F (should be > 375)
Fuel - < 0.05% (should be < 2%)
Antifreeze - 0 (should be 0)
Water - 0 (should be < 0.1%)
Insolubules - 0.2% (should be < 0.6%)

1/4 qt make-up oil added; oil was in the car 6 1/2 months

If you want to read my past analyses, they're all linked in my sig below.
Old 02-27-2006, 05:50 PM
  #2  
AudiWorld Super User
 
Christian (Stage Ow)'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,102
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Great results for an 8k interval.
Old 02-27-2006, 05:51 PM
  #3  
Pat
AudiWorld Super User
 
Pat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Posts: 9,192
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Nice =). That's funny they chastised you.

"BAAAD O.W. Kenobi!"
Old 02-27-2006, 06:18 PM
  #4  
AudiWorld Senior Member
 
Zold-manS8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,705
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

who do you use for the analysis? been thinking of starting to do that.
Old 02-27-2006, 06:46 PM
  #5  
RKA
AudiWorld Uber User
 
RKA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 66,965
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Well, you tested two things...

1. How long the oil can go in your car.
2. That Blackstone doesn't write flattering feel-good prose for all their clients.

So thanks for that!
Old 02-27-2006, 06:49 PM
  #6  
AudiWorld Super User
 
BeeRock::Riding Red's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,072
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default obviously changing oils for you is not an option, I believe once you run a certain oil stick with it

until rebuild etc.

I have a buddy who has done some major oil analysis for top companies.

he swears by amsoil.

he even told me about that little commercial mobil one had with the frying pan next to conventional oil. (the mobil one ran away from the heat on the frying pan)- so they used a diff oil.He even built a motor for testing for them and ran it at 5000 rpms for 120 hours until it blew up. mobil todl him he built the motor incorrectly and thats why it blew. So mobil one built a motor and it blew in less time..

Those stories have stayed with me for a while i dont touch mobil one.

im curious to see what a real world analysis of the other oils out would turn up. just to see if mobil has changed since the inception.

say like
castrol 0w-30
amsoil 0w-30

etc.....
Old 02-27-2006, 06:58 PM
  #7  
RKA
AudiWorld Uber User
 
RKA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 66,965
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

real world analysis is in the archives (for both of those)
Old 02-27-2006, 07:06 PM
  #8  
AudiWorld Super User
 
Christian (Stage Ow)'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,102
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Amsoil has too many phosphors. Skip, IMO.
Old 02-27-2006, 07:11 PM
  #9  
AudiWorld Super User
 
Andrew C.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 10,628
Received 27 Likes on 22 Posts
Default

i imagine that it made him feel like a padawan again ;-)
Old 02-27-2006, 07:12 PM
  #10  
Rest In Peace
Thread Starter
 
O.W. Kenobi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 19,404
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default I did it out of curiousity at first. Then, I realized that it may give me advance warning

of some internal engine problems down the road, so I stuck with it. A nice consequence is that they helped me extend my oil intervals (now 8k - started at 5k). A benefit that I'll probably never use is that it might be of interest to a potential buyer if I'd ever sell.


Quick Reply: Results from my 68k oil analysis (8k interval, 6 track days, Mobil 1 0W40)



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:58 AM.