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This is a great development for the S4 Mark....

Posted by: KRS-S4 on 2006-01-11 13:11:42
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In Reply to: AutoSpeed GT25R2 Kit is Complete! posted by Mark@AutoSpeed on 2006-01-11 07:46:57

..congrats on getting this product to market, I know it's been a long road so I think that cost is well worth the R&D you've put into the kit. I am wondering though about the 28 psi and how that may/may not effect the motor long term, it seems that this is reaching the threshhold of the stock block? Just wondering what you think or what you have learned regarding sustained 28psi boost over time...(you may have answered below, but thats alot of threads to read!)

Again congrats on being the first tuner to bring the GT series turbo to the S4!

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AutoSpeed GT25R2 Kit is Complete! - Mark@AutoSpeed 2006-01-11 07:46:57 (10897 views)

For the record, it appears that the prototype vehicle is putting out 575 crank hp and 597 crank tq. - t.arrows 2006-01-17 17:05:34 (1159 views)

Wasn't that addressed here? - InFlux 2006-01-18 11:42:35 (443 views)

Complete as in done ? tuned ? 350ish TQ at 6800+ - notahaterbut 2006-01-14 11:31:33 (598 views)

Hahhaa.. I know who this is... - Todeshandler 2006-01-14 21:05:22 (456 views)

What would the forums be without some trolls =) - Mark@AutoSpeed 2006-01-14 17:42:11 (348 views)

more like a Toad.... - Zold-manS4 2006-01-14 19:28:22 (263 views)

Seriously, what a joke...1 post. - [badmoonrising] 2006-01-14 19:21:52 (342 views)

Cost Comparison - Mark P 2006-01-12 13:05:43 (1849 views)

Thanks for that Mark, now calculate $/hp, DOH! - Mark@AutoSpeed 2006-01-12 16:59:50 (369 views)

i did that here. - Andrew C. 2006-01-12 17:08:41 (374 views)

IF, you go from bone stock to stage III, looks like this isn't too out of whack. The issue, most... - JasonS4 2006-01-12 13:45:31 (613 views)

It's giving me crazy ideas... - Verr?ckt 2006-01-12 16:49:30 (479 views)

"Profit"? - Andrew C. 2006-01-13 08:43:35 (279 views)

I'm pretty sure it's a reference to a joke in South Park. - VandyS4 2006-01-13 12:36:36 (237 views)

are they still making new episodes of that show? used to watch it when i had a TV. - Andrew C. 2006-01-13 12:49:00 (220 views)

yep, and it's still hilarious. - VandyS4 2006-01-13 13:09:31 (217 views)

i need to rethink this TV thing! - Andrew C. 2006-01-13 15:51:05 (233 views)

. - ModifiedA4 2006-01-13 06:26:09 (252 views)

that is pretty funny you mention that - I was thinking the SAME thing when the kit came out... - JasonS4 2006-01-12 16:57:40 (300 views)

Eerh... if you love her, shouldn't she get the Garret kit in the Allroad? :-p - FixedWing 2006-01-12 16:52:03 (421 views)

Another way to look at it.. - Minnesoda_Phats 2006-01-12 13:16:22 (391 views)

both of you please stop. I am trying to not justify this. - $240 worth of puddin 2006-01-12 13:29:33 (318 views)

you're right. it should be - Andrew C. 2006-01-12 13:45:07 (374 views)

/\/\/\/\/\/\ here's the $$/hp that Josh asked about. - Andrew C. 2006-01-12 13:23:44 (326 views)

nicely presented. - mjtaylor 2006-01-12 13:09:52 (226 views)

you should do a $$ per HP comparison that would be interesting to see - JoshD@S4.org 2006-01-12 13:09:19 (264 views)

well i think ill go kill myself now. - Cypher2k 2006-01-11 18:43:14 (302 views)

Well done Mark!!!! I have a 993tt that has 502whp and 504tq on that same mustang dyno and...... - marin 993tt 2006-01-11 17:54:38 (613 views)

When are you coming back? R32 turbo still barely owns you on the dyno. =) - Jason @ Streetwerke 2006-01-12 09:30:17 (411 views)

You may really own me now that I have full muffers.... - marin 993tt 2006-01-12 11:26:49 (377 views)

502whp on a 993tt? damn. whats the 0-60 and 1/4mile on that - S4Fish 2006-01-11 18:10:32 (391 views)

One and only pass at the drags 12.18 ET, 2.3 60' and 123mph - marin 993tt 2006-01-12 11:28:47 (302 views)

lol@2.3 60' - cwh 2006-01-12 12:24:39 (261 views)

Somethings likely messy on the launches. My '70 Challenger ran 12.23s at the same mph - Hal_S4Shizzle::CBP 2006-01-12 12:59:41 (282 views)

Yeah its pretty sad. The second time on the line I tried to really launch and the clutch smoked.... - marin 993tt 2006-01-12 12:27:27 (305 views)

yeah, you'd easily see mid 11's if you hit the launch and all shifts right. - cwh 2006-01-12 12:44:22 (276 views)

Fast enough? - Tgr_Clw (Milltek'ed) 2006-01-11 19:13:28 (251 views)

So finally us East coast pricks get lucky-how much for install? Congrats Mark! - S4andTLS 2006-01-11 16:28:51 (281 views)

. . . - Andrew C. 2006-01-11 16:30:33 (418 views)

I'll go ahead and ask for BigBlue: how much weight does this kit add? ;-) - dano-oly 2006-01-11 16:05:06 (328 views)

BUDDHA!!! I got all excited until I saw the price, damn kit is worth more than my car :P - Chaka 2006-01-11 15:44:05 (340 views)

WOW....congrats Mark....wish i had the money for this....by the way this thread is damn long...=P - doo - NYC_SpeedRacer 2006-01-11 15:22:47 (255 views)

Freakin' awesome Mark! - Alex (lil' is 300) 2006-01-11 15:02:13 (247 views)

Will it mount up to the RS4 engine? - FixedWing 2006-01-11 15:00:11 (301 views)

Bar none: THEE turbo kit to buy if you want a monster-hp B5 S4 - ILLusive 2006-01-11 14:55:42 (386 views)

Ok, so now the turbos won't blow, but the entire engine will. S4-Anxiety^eleventybillion!!111!!!1 - VandyS4 2006-01-11 14:34:30 (385 views)

Ha ha. - Tgr_Clw (Milltek'ed) 2006-01-11 19:14:11 (297 views)

kimchee was here - NO.KIMCHEE 2006-01-11 14:33:26 (246 views)

congrats mark! this is a huge opening to an even huger S4 era. Knew the wait would be worth it - S4Fish 2006-01-11 13:49:03 (245 views)

1000 times congrats! It's refresing news for the B5 S4 community! - Chuck-S4 2006-01-11 13:18:32 (349 views)

This is a great development for the S4 Mark.... - KRS-S4 2006-01-11 13:11:42 (311 views)

I hope you sell strong clutches with that kit! - generic::cbp 2006-01-11 13:01:52 (302 views)

Will, go ahead and get your order in... might as well have all the S4s apart at once =-) - Hal_S4Shizzle::CBP 2006-01-11 16:31:38 (236 views)

we can find you a clutch to work with this kit.... Will, don't worry - Zold-manS4 2006-01-11 14:49:42 (259 views)

/\/\/\ :-) - rickyS4 2006-01-11 13:17:53 (231 views)

Congrats Mark! It looks *extremely* well done. Good price for what you get too. - FunkWeasel 2006-01-11 13:00:37 (295 views)

Standing ovation ! - SchagenWagen 2006-01-11 12:56:50 (249 views)

That's very impressive... kudos to you, sir! *edited* - InFlux 2006-01-11 12:56:42 (291 views)

????$$$13K???? - nealglobalauto 2006-01-11 12:56:33 (484 views)

75% value of a dented, rusted, 400k mile, no engine, sitting on cinder blocks S4 *maybe* - O.W. Kenobi 2006-01-11 14:12:45 (354 views)

Mine was US$12K. :-p - FixedWing 2006-01-11 14:34:45 (304 views)

TJ: what suspension and ride height do you run in the wintar? - Oo.et.oO 2006-01-13 05:30:14 (336 views)

It sure sounds like a lot, but...... - B5QShip 2006-01-11 13:13:47 (367 views)

AND THEN THERE WAS STAGE 4 !!!!!!!! - Hibiscus Red S4 2006-01-11 12:49:09 (460 views)

My thoughts exactly - "A REAL Stage 4" - Zold-manS4 2006-01-11 13:11:17 (345 views)

Yes - Hibiscus Red S4 2006-01-11 13:25:32 (300 views)

Mark, do you have any actual dyno charts you care to share? You can call if you like. - Jason @ Streetwerke 2006-01-11 12:07:16 (316 views)

J...don't be lazy, sir....scroll down an ye shall findeth thee chart! ;-) Hows the monster R? - BASELINE 2006-01-11 12:15:06 (330 views)

That isn't an actual chart from a Mustang AWD-500 that I see. - Jason @ Streetwerke 2006-01-11 15:06:01 (366 views)

this one? - Andrew C. 2006-01-11 15:26:52 (699 views)

Didn't see that one, saw the other Pchopped one on the ASP site. Thanks! - Jason @ Streetwerke 2006-01-11 16:27:20 (249 views)

Any tests done to the engine, before install? Will you do it for any mileage engine? - yetis 2006-01-11 12:04:36 (309 views)

Biggest post of 2006...and probably greatest acheivment!! GREAT JOB and congrats MARK....I'm gettin - BASELINE 2006-01-11 11:50:08 (406 views)

Kudos to Tony Chick, Dave and Mark too!!!!!!! Never knew you guys were such whores. :-P - BASELINE 2006-01-11 11:52:27 (301 views)

Huge congrats sir.. You have come a long way and your skill and eye for detail - Milpitas2.7T 2006-01-11 11:22:36 (310 views)

where does the line start again? :p - mjtaylor 2006-01-11 11:25:25 (314 views)

Behind my cute Cactus arse! - Milpitas2.7T 2006-01-11 17:12:24 (250 views)

Congrats to you, Mark, and everyone else involved. This looks to be a very impressive kit. - PiggieSmalls 2006-01-11 10:55:27 (540 views)

we all have decided how comperable FATS times are (they aren't). but your point stands... - Oo.et.oO 2006-01-11 11:07:05 (935 views)

What? 2.9-3.0 Fats.... should be MUCH faster then that... - Todeshandler 2006-01-11 10:56:46 (324 views)

Based on the WHP curve posted in on the Autospeed web site the FATS time should be about 2.81 sec. - rktskicar 2006-01-11 18:54:25 (334 views)

thats in 4th gear. not 3rd. that changes things a whooooole bunch - BUFFALONOGAROpebFATS 2006-01-11 18:56:59 (260 views)

WHP is WHP. Dynos are made to measure power at the wheels. The car does not put out anymore power - rktskicar 2006-01-11 19:01:54 (1125 views)

n/m, i missed the fact you were converting that way. - BUFFALONOGAROpebFATS 2006-01-11 18:58:57 (268 views)

My point exactly. I was SUPER happy and so proud of Mark until I saw this post.... - PiggieSmalls 2006-01-11 10:59:51 (597 views)

I thought about that too, but correct me if I'm wrong. And I probably am, but... - SAC-CA-S4:Big Bird 2006-01-11 12:15:14 (398 views)

I looked at the compressor maps of the GT25R - [badmoonrising] 2006-01-11 12:35:09 (674 views)

Just a quick question: What makes you believe that GT turbos are more reliable? - NO.BRAZIL (barf) 2006-01-11 13:45:11 (376 views)

The thrust loading involved when running high boost makes ball bearing turbos ideal.... - marin 993tt 2006-01-11 17:58:54 (348 views)

now now....lets not get into this discussion ;) - Imolavirus:Infected 2006-01-11 18:02:54 (297 views)

A lot of ppl with Skylines, Supras, RX7s run GT series turbos... - hadokenny 2006-01-11 13:52:28 (397 views)

2nd. - AJN334 2006-01-11 13:35:05 (239 views)

i thought compressor maps used absolute pressure.. ? - mjtaylor 2006-01-11 12:50:27 (275 views)

they do, so its out of the map but depending of the flow it might still be pretty efficient - smurfbus4 2006-01-11 22:59:40 (214 views)

I'd like to see the #s on that same dyno for one of the well setup hybrid cars. - FunkWeasel 2006-01-11 12:01:50 (318 views)

Your answer for K04/K24... - Chuck-S4 2006-01-11 12:55:32 (482 views)

I doubt it on the area under the curve, but we'll see. I'd love to see your car run on the same - FunkWeasel 2006-01-11 12:59:23 (315 views)

One thing is for sure, I won't upgrade to GT25r as I got similar results with K24s. - Chuck-S4 2006-01-11 13:11:43 (395 views)

Agreed. The GT setup is very, very nice though. Mark always does some nice, innovative work. - FunkWeasel 2006-01-11 13:16:01 (266 views)

i'm likely going with the GT setup with the following in mind... - mjtaylor 2006-01-11 13:27:21 (395 views)

That's the way to think about it. ;-) For me I'd play around some though in terms of - FunkWeasel 2006-01-11 14:00:02 (349 views)

ill probably run it off the shelf for a bit - then i'll start digging into the heads and motor :) - mjtaylor 2006-01-11 15:41:24 (285 views)

Cams....needs cams..... - FunkWeasel 2006-01-11 17:00:15 (284 views)

oh yeah, i still owe you an email about those :) - mjtaylor 2006-01-11 17:44:32 (234 views)

F**k FATS times, way too many variables to compare, let's just line them up in 3rd gear. - ohioko4s4 2006-01-11 11:17:41 (353 views)

just curious, where does your + come from? - BUFFALONOGAROpebFATS 2006-01-11 11:48:29 (274 views)

hybrids, heads, headers, cams, etc.... - ohioko4s4 2006-01-11 12:47:03 (282 views)

sounds +-worthy to me. - mjtaylor 2006-01-11 12:51:41 (276 views)

extra drop of retcin? - [badmoonrising] 2006-01-11 11:53:51 (312 views)

oooh, smells minty - BUFFALONOGAROpebFATS 2006-01-11 12:39:41 (274 views)

Hopefully Marc will post some logs or run them through Nye's FATS calc. - Todeshandler 2006-01-11 11:06:31 (308 views)

I'm sure it was with two persons on the car plus uphill - smurfbus4 2006-01-11 11:03:36 (274 views)

Dayumn....makes me wanna buy another S4 back in NJ and drive it to ASP....incredible job Mark!! - EvilEmpirE::WMS 2006-01-11 10:50:30 (334 views)

hmmm the link took me to the homepage of ASP...but i dont see any info on the kit - hadokenny 2006-01-11 10:48:48 (319 views)

Are you serious? It's right there smack in the middle of their webpage. - Pearl of the Orient 2006-01-11 10:50:04 (434 views)

Weird...I still cant find the link on the frontpage. I must be blind. Thanks for the link! - hadokenny 2006-01-11 10:53:39 (314 views)

clear your intraweb cache? - Andrew C. 2006-01-11 13:42:23 (291 views)

on the intarweb, links can be in pictures..i.e. click on the "project" picture on the home page. - ModifiedA4 2006-01-11 11:05:23 (319 views)

PLEASE WAIT TWO MORE WEEKS :) - Noose 2006-01-11 10:47:28 (288 views)

Mark, I'm sure you've run a Stage 3 car from a roll, care - ohioko4s4 2006-01-11 10:43:20 (459 views)

As I am sure everyone is curious of the results including me, I don't think it very wise... - projectS4gt25r 2006-01-11 11:17:06 (536 views)

You don't necessarily represent ASP by yourself, you know...it *IS* your car, and... - box_of_partS4 2006-01-11 12:20:54 (345 views)

but then if someone starts first, etc - I'm more in favor of multi-cars on same dyno - Mark P 2006-01-11 12:24:30 (362 views)

that's why there is video. But if the GT25 car complains about a slight jump - ohioko4s4 2006-01-11 12:43:11 (392 views)

Agreed. That would work just as well. That FATS seems slow for that power, though... - box_of_partS4 2006-01-11 12:30:29 (298 views)

You'd be suprised. Most of the mags are tired of all S4 or S4 dominated shootouts - Todeshandler 2006-01-11 11:53:07 (394 views)

Maybe Autospeed needs to shoot for the Car and Driver shootout instead of the others.... - projectS4gt25r 2006-01-11 12:26:02 (340 views)

C&D does not typically include out of production cars. - ohioko4s4 2006-01-11 12:28:02 (258 views)

I understand. But I assume you would be driving your car, correct? - ohioko4s4 2006-01-11 11:20:58 (318 views)

congrats from this side of the pond too. hows your timing correction with 93 at torque peek? - smurfbus4 2006-01-11 10:35:33 (336 views)

WOW! :-o Congrats Mark! Can't wait to see the beast at EPL. - Dr. Jekyll 2006-01-11 10:26:59 (324 views)

epl this weekend? - cwh 2006-01-11 10:27:35 (299 views)

Yes sir :-) - Dr. Jekyll 2006-01-11 12:19:21 (253 views)

Outstanding...congratulations, Mark. Looking forward to meeting you at ELP on Saturday. - Stiller-Blitz 2006-01-11 10:26:50 (278 views)

sig looks familiar... who are you? YGM - Oo.et.oO 2006-01-11 10:59:28 (274 views)

Nasty. - SilkenRocket 2006-01-11 10:24:38 (261 views)

Brutal! Congrats to everyone involved. - Verr?ckt 2006-01-11 10:15:50 (306 views)

What's the boost profile like? What boost at what RPM? - box_of_partS4 2006-01-11 10:15:47 (277 views)

Mark? Boost? What does the curve look like? I'm sure everyone would like to know... - box_of_partS4 2006-01-11 11:19:44 (260 views)

Congrats Mark , you must be tired ;p - SIMPPLY @ WMS 2006-01-11 10:00:42 (303 views)

Nope, just scratching the surface, working on my motor today! Expect big numbers =) - Mark@AutoSpeed 2006-01-11 10:02:01 (318 views)

we should meet one day and run these bad boys : ) - SIMPPLY @ WMS 2006-01-11 10:03:50 (313 views)

.................... - lemieux@curbside 2006-01-11 10:11:21 (615 views)

We'll see what the challenge schedules look like for the year, need to work on my base tan =) - Mark@AutoSpeed 2006-01-11 10:06:16 (295 views)

How much will installation be? - box_of_partS4 2006-01-11 09:56:40 (303 views)

see here... - Mark@AutoSpeed 2006-01-11 10:01:03 (683 views)

That's not too bad. Wish I could afford it =*(***** - box_of_partS4 2006-01-11 10:05:23 (364 views)

Any FATS runs/numbers available? - wagongotya 2006-01-11 09:29:48 (295 views)

It is in the 2.9x~3.0x range - Mark@AutoSpeed 2006-01-11 09:39:40 (521 views)

That's fast, but I expected lower given the dyno... - S4tranquility 2006-01-11 10:59:36 (305 views)

also FATS+ was thought up to help compare a broader range which likely applies better here - Mark P 2006-01-11 11:18:33 (259 views)

The fats time is from the dyno. While logging the pulls, perhaps its time to do a few on the street - Mark@AutoSpeed 2006-01-11 13:11:08 (267 views)

No wonder! It will do WAY better on the street IMHO. I knew summin was wrong... - RAD69 2006-01-12 06:35:15 (241 views)

See, I knew there was something fishy about those times. I look foward to seeing street times. :) - PiggieSmalls 2006-01-11 13:36:41 (304 views)

oh..2.8-3.0 sec in 4-th :o lol..that's what.. a possible 1.5 in 3-rd?j/k ; maybe2.3-2.5.. - lemieux@curbside 2006-01-11 13:41:26 (270 views)

:-O - mjtaylor 2006-01-11 13:28:58 (235 views)

Doh! For sure do them on the street; you may be pleasantly surprised. ;-) - FunkWeasel 2006-01-11 13:14:47 (242 views)

Mark, what do you think the output would be on 91? Just a guess. Do you think - SAC-CA-S4:Big Bird 2006-01-11 09:49:34 (339 views)

2nd that, what kind of #'s can be expected with craptane. I'm fairly skeptical about announcements - JBear::FATS 2006-01-11 14:52:46 (258 views)

wow - that is a lot of power. I'd love to see that car do a friendly highway run with an "out of... - JasonS4 2006-01-11 09:25:29 (437 views)

<Strongbad> Holy Crap! </Strongbad> Is that the sound of K04s being sold I hear? - Racked 2006-01-11 09:18:52 (286 views)

Great work Mark!!! Im looking forward to working together in the future! - nerdhotrod 2006-01-11 09:14:40 (294 views)

HAHA.....dude...I didn't think I'd ever see that handle again. Great work Tony!! See ya this WE. - BASELINE 2006-01-11 12:47:49 (238 views)

8) I guess this car will test the limits of the internals. is there a number that people feel - Silver Streakin' 2006-01-11 09:14:21 (386 views)

Time will tell, but from looking at the logs, the car didn't seem stressed at all. - DAP 2006-01-11 09:25:11 (294 views)

are you implying one can see deformed rods/bearings/gaskets from VAG logs? - Oo.et.oO 2006-01-11 10:57:42 (260 views)

My concerns, too: - t.arrows 2006-01-11 13:09:16 (321 views)

No, but you can hear them with your ear logs :-) - Hibiscus Red S4 2006-01-11 12:44:07 (234 views)

obviously you wouldnt see an X-ray of your motor in a VAG log, but i guarantee any of the problems - mjtaylor 2006-01-11 11:24:51 (298 views)

Thats the "time will tell" part. Just saying that all of the data registered on the ECU's sensors - DAP 2006-01-11 11:21:16 (304 views)

way out of my price range, but congrats to you Mark. Serious advancement... - NigelS4 2006-01-11 09:13:16 (281 views)

Amazing work, Mark! - DAP 2006-01-11 09:04:06 (354 views)

this is very cool. many congrats on getting this complete. cant wait to see some real world data - BUFFALONOGAROpebFATS 2006-01-11 09:02:37 (385 views)

Nice work. If you're receptive to marketing suggestions, it would be helpful - O.W. Kenobi 2006-01-11 09:01:42 (420 views)

Big 2nd on that one, and please make it from the same dyno. Apparently the base run in your graph - t.arrows 2006-01-11 09:52:11 (358 views)

Stock base run was done at EPL last night. Give them some time to crunch the numbers - Ski05751 2006-01-11 12:25:45 (266 views)

Holy mother of god <jaw drops> - B5QShip 2006-01-11 08:57:45 (298 views)

so, who is taking this thing to a stip? hehe. someone had to ask. - BiturboBoy_V2.0_S3-- 2006-01-11 08:56:21 (646 views)

thats awesome! - Nasti00S4 2006-01-11 08:55:28 (274 views)

Looking good Mark, makes me want to pick up another S4. Any chance you can post the actual mustang - Todeshandler 2006-01-11 08:50:40 (362 views)

Note on graph and dyno software. - nerdhotrod 2006-01-11 09:24:53 (410 views)

Good to know. Wonder if current Mustang owners have an upgrade path for the new - Todeshandler 2006-01-11 10:08:15 (309 views)

Hey Brian here's one of many, still have the golf? - Mark@AutoSpeed 2006-01-11 09:01:26 (650 views)

love it that you took the dyno all the way up to 7K...really puts the power charact. into perspectiv - BASELINE 2006-01-11 12:08:06 (277 views)

Very nice! Nah golf is long-gone... Driving the A6 now but looking to get rid of that ASAP as well. - Todeshandler 2006-01-11 09:03:16 (335 views)

TJ: Hey Brian, if you have a sec sometime could you shoot me impressions on the A6 as a car overall? - Hal_S4Shizzle::CBP 2006-01-11 09:22:45 (303 views)

Sure. As a daily driver I have not had a better car. The motor is great, plenty of torque. Drives - Todeshandler 2006-01-11 10:06:08 (348 views)

Thanks man, appreciate the comments. - Hal_S4Shizzle::CBP 2006-01-11 16:44:52 (265 views)

Headgaskets and headbolts in the parts list? Heads have to be pulled? - t.arrows 2006-01-11 08:48:33 (412 views)

Hello Ted, stock cr, just to freshen the head/block mating and improve overall seal for the boost. - Mark@AutoSpeed 2006-01-11 09:48:46 (316 views)

Nice! Can you estimate install time on the whole kit? Can anyone do the install or only ASP? - t.arrows 2006-01-11 09:53:58 (308 views)

At this time only installed at ASP for $3000 incl. tbelt, clutch labor and fine tune. - Mark@AutoSpeed 2006-01-11 09:58:21 (671 views)

How long would you need the car to do the install? ~1 week? - CoolHandNuke 2006-01-11 10:12:25 (337 views)

Assuming all parts are in stock, yes 1-2 weeks maximum - Mark@AutoSpeed 2006-01-11 10:16:44 (358 views)

That's kind of tough for us west coasters. I don't see why it would be THAT difficult. Except - SAC-CA-S4:Big Bird 2006-01-11 10:08:38 (346 views)

No not difficult if you have the tools and aptitude, but the reality is we do not want anything... - Mark@AutoSpeed 2006-01-11 10:12:51 (470 views)

Understood...guess there may have to be a waiting period. Being it could get expensive - SAC-CA-S4:Big Bird 2006-01-11 10:21:07 (320 views)

That's quite reasonable. - reefer_bob 2006-01-11 10:19:37 (286 views)

Yeah...you'd ONLY be able to watch! No touchy the car! - SAC-CA-S4:Big Bird 2006-01-11 10:22:59 (284 views)

;) I can't WAIT to do my car... - reefer_bob 2006-01-11 10:26:21 (274 views)

curve doesn't look smoothed over like most tuner's post. thats why its "shaky" - BiturboBoy_V2.0_S3-- 2006-01-11 08:54:14 (327 views)

Ok, so Brand A was a run from a different dyno? Shouldn't they both be shaky if no smoothing is - t.arrows 2006-01-11 08:56:14 (310 views)

Brand A run was what another tuner publishes for their kit on the same model dyno - Mark P 2006-01-11 08:59:59 (352 views)

Read Mark's response to this below. - christian (xinnar) 2006-01-11 08:58:06 (380 views)

Indeed. And he already replied to the same question below. - christian (xinnar) 2006-01-11 08:55:58 (278 views)

Very, very, very nice - well put together info as well/always. Congrats! - Mark P 2006-01-11 08:46:57 (300 views)

mark can you take some pics this weekend? i would love to drive down... - Oo.et.oO 2006-01-11 10:50:01 (302 views)

always! - Mark P 2006-01-11 11:12:25 (252 views)

Good God! you can spin the earth with that! - The S 2006-01-11 08:44:25 (298 views)

LOL, after enough 1/4 mile runs you could reverse time and save Lois Lane! - BoneStockS4 2006-01-11 10:20:28 (360 views)

That's fast. - Tgr_Clw (Milltek'ed) 2006-01-11 08:44:09 (604 views)

WOW... - nobodeuno 2006-01-11 08:41:08 (364 views)

Umm ... wonder if I can get my car back from Alex now. - Rob O 2006-01-11 08:39:49 (375 views)

get another one, blown snails and go to town. i have a feeling alex has his own plans. >:-D - Oo.et.oO 2006-01-11 10:48:30 (285 views)

Heh. Yeah, I know all about his plans for MADWAGN ... - Rob O 2006-01-11 10:56:41 (287 views)

kid is always way ahead of me. his 90 used to blow my car off the road. now i'll never catch him - Oo.et.oO 2006-01-11 11:03:25 (263 views)

lol - Rob O 2006-01-11 14:55:39 (224 views)

Drool, the question is whether or not I can afford it - spartanS4 2006-01-11 08:36:14 (342 views)

who is brand A??? - Zold-manS4 2006-01-11 08:33:53 (336 views)

awe - phillys4951 2006-01-11 09:22:38 (313 views)

could be AMS, AWE, APR.... - JoshD@S4.org 2006-01-11 08:50:46 (353 views)

Lol, already looked, isn't APR but the "crayons" were out there as well =-) - Hal_S4Shizzle::CBP 2006-01-11 09:24:06 (296 views)

that is completely bad ass....ugh i want an S4... - Justin517 2006-01-11 08:32:38 (383 views)

Nice Mark, Congrats. - Hal_S4Shizzle::CBP 2006-01-11 08:29:19 (294 views)

HOLLY LONG power orgasm .. 2500 rpm of full ~500whp .. not just a tinny peak @ 7k - lemieux@curbside 2006-01-11 08:25:21 (468 views)

peak torque at 4900rpm, that's a long time to wait. - cwh 2006-01-11 08:24:24 (375 views)

lol.. but @ 3-3.5k rpm makes what ko4-s make ..and it's only ~1/2 way :O - lemieux@curbside 2006-01-11 08:30:49 (304 views)

Don't understand the K04 kit sees peak tq (330) at approx. 3800rpm, we are at 400ft-lbs @ 3800?? - Mark@AutoSpeed 2006-01-11 08:30:16 (338 views)

the kit is amazing, but it's just way beyond what i need (at this time) - cwh 2006-01-11 08:58:27 (370 views)

its not for everyone....but still 500chp on pump with K04s is hardly going to be reliable. - BASELINE 2006-01-11 12:11:52 (273 views)

The ride getting there is like no other and remember 653ftlbs!!!!! - projectS4gt25r 2006-01-11 08:28:26 (333 views)

So much for "Two Weeks". Congrats, Mark! - Pat-SoCal 2006-01-11 08:20:53 (389 views)

Thanks Pat, will be calling regarding some suspension ?'s soon. - Mark@AutoSpeed 2006-01-11 08:23:30 (292 views)

Excellent, I can't wait to help polish on an already outstanding project! - Pat-SoCal 2006-01-11 08:56:02 (278 views)

Nice!!! See you on the 14th. :-) - FixedWing 2006-01-11 08:18:17 (328 views)

THUMBS UP :) Why did it have to come after xmas? LOL :-) - rickyS4 2006-01-11 08:17:32 (285 views)

Congrats Mark!!!!!! Looks like an aweseom kit :) - Imolavirus:Infected 2006-01-11 08:16:57 (417 views)

Absolutely awesome :-) - AJN334 2006-01-11 08:16:24 (317 views)

The video dyno is nice. I'm reminded of a jet... <wets self> - S4tranquility 2006-01-11 08:16:11 (312 views)

Great numbers... - Hibiscus Red S4 2006-01-11 08:12:03 (360 views)

The curve is "shaky" because it is real, we do not publish the "crayon-esque" plots... - Mark@AutoSpeed 2006-01-11 08:21:08 (486 views)

Here is a non "crayon-esque" plot from dynojet. The printouts from Mustangs are usually - Todeshandler 2006-01-11 09:00:20 (537 views)

Any tests on 91? For us Cali folks - SAC-CA-S4:Big Bird 2006-01-11 08:11:22 (321 views)

You could always just move. - Fixn2xlr8 2006-01-11 08:14:54 (289 views)

I just may...but in 3-4 years...Denver, CO here I come! - SAC-CA-S4:Big Bird 2006-01-11 09:19:43 (271 views)

<begins putting worldly possessions on Ebay> - CoolHandNuke 2006-01-11 08:11:21 (412 views)

<begins surfing ebay> - reefer_bob 2006-01-11 08:16:03 (305 views)

Start under Other Categories -> Adult -> Videos - CoolHandNuke 2006-01-11 08:18:13 (346 views)

then proceed to -->midgets -->weedeater-->beano.... - Toasty-Stg3::HCBP 2006-01-11 08:45:08 (322 views)

amazing work Mark, cant wait to get the kit on the Nogaro :) - mjtaylor 2006-01-11 08:08:36 (278 views)

yes sir. - Mark@AutoSpeed 2006-01-11 08:09:11 (295 views)

things look to be moving well, maybe i can up the target date to march-april :) - mjtaylor 2006-01-11 08:18:52 (280 views)

Group Buy! :D - Need4TTBoost 2006-01-11 08:06:54 (292 views)

Or at least an introductory pricing. ; ) - Pearl of the Orient 2006-01-11 08:39:12 (295 views)

(hint, hint) - rickyS4 2006-01-11 08:40:42 (288 views)

Woah! Do you get special seat belts with that? Congrats Mark, Nice work!! - RAD69 2006-01-11 08:06:49 (345 views)

Thanks Rob, still need to have you come down and tune your beast. - Mark@AutoSpeed 2006-01-11 08:08:46 (305 views)

lol - I was just about to email you that... ygm!!! - RAD69 2006-01-11 10:13:02 (340 views)

^^^^ - lemieux@curbside 2006-01-11 08:27:53 (283 views)

NNNIIICCCEEE!!! Me likey. - PKmode 2006-01-11 08:06:48 (306 views)

who needs k04s??????????????????????? - jwolf 2006-01-11 08:05:37 (343 views)

For those with Stage 3 set ups already... - KO4ed in Phoenix 2006-01-11 08:05:13 (604 views)

No manifolds and downpipes are required, this does NOT bolt up to OEM. - Mark@AutoSpeed 2006-01-11 08:08:01 (389 views)

Mark, will you sell the Software/Manifolds/Turbos as a slightly discounted rate for Stage 3ers? - christian (xinnar) 2006-01-11 08:20:28 (366 views)

JMO...but Autospeed has always offered the highest quality products for very reasonable... - projectS4gt25r 2006-01-11 08:45:00 (493 views)

Oh, I'm not saying that 13K is unreasonable. But . . . (more) - christian (xinnar) 2006-01-11 08:50:51 (433 views)

id imagine the injectors and MAF housing would be different on a stage 3 car unless you had ASP - mjtaylor 2006-01-11 08:56:04 (328 views)

That's a good point. Many of the pieces I mentioned are kit-specific. - christian (xinnar) 2006-01-11 09:00:09 (333 views)

agreed. - mjtaylor 2006-01-11 08:49:57 (268 views)

Mark told me he's only going to sell the kit complete... maybe he can chime in here... - Marcus Frost 2006-01-11 08:07:29 (311 views)

Which bring the next question. With DPs and cat back, can I knock 2k off the kit price? - Fixn2xlr8 2006-01-11 08:06:26 (298 views)

i think you'd need different DP's. - BiturboBoy_V2.0_S3-- 2006-01-11 08:08:19 (297 views)

~500awhp on 93, very well done Mark... what about octane program switching - 93/100 ? - Marcus Frost 2006-01-11 08:03:50 (315 views)

holy mother of gawd!!! - wagongotya 2006-01-11 08:01:56 (289 views)

And it is smooooth! no herky jerky motion or turbo lag. - tristateS4 2006-01-11 08:00:22 (306 views)

**darth vader voice** "Immpresssive" - BiturboBoy_V2.0_S3-- 2006-01-11 07:59:21 (345 views)

BAD ASS! - Toasty-Stg3::HCBP 2006-01-11 07:58:26 (360 views)

WOW, CONGRATS!!!!! - Hibiscus Red S4 2006-01-11 07:55:15 (320 views)

holy sheet! nice work! - Arcteryx 2006-01-11 07:54:39 (285 views)

omfg - S4tranquility 2006-01-11 07:53:59 (296 views)

492 whp, and 512 lb-ft of torque on 93? Nice, Mark! - christian (xinnar) 2006-01-11 07:53:07 (363 views)

What's that translate to at the crank? - MarkCore^TM 2006-01-11 08:01:00 (355 views)

630chp/653Tq - Mark@AutoSpeed 2006-01-11 08:06:52 (310 views)

The price has MSRP after it .. You guys ARE the manufacturer so I don't think that's neccesary. =] - MarkCore^TM 2006-01-11 08:21:06 (325 views)

492/CHP = 100 - (100 * Drivetrain loss %) :-P - BiturboBoy_V2.0_S3-- 2006-01-11 08:04:33 (313 views)

21.5% drivetrain loss I guess... - BiturboBoy_V2.0_S3-- 2006-01-11 08:15:10 (315 views)

Looks like they're using the same 1.28x correction factor that AWE uses on the same model dyno - Mark P 2006-01-11 08:43:21 (333 views)

Mark. I don't think a set percentage should be used. The loss does not necessarily go up as HP - NO.BRAZIL (barf) 2006-01-11 09:08:13 (341 views)

Loss MUST go up with power. It's basic Thermodynamics. - Verr?ckt 2006-01-11 10:14:47 (555 views)

No. It's still a discussion. - NO.BRAZIL (barf) 2006-01-18 11:46:11 (181 views)

yup, you are correct. - ModifiedA4 2006-01-12 06:19:46 (257 views)

sorry guys, verruckt is right. - nyet 2006-01-11 14:56:10 (334 views)

I have heard from many people (one a dyno operator) - KRS-S4 2006-01-11 23:13:32 (258 views)

Well, you can trust your dyno operator (who is wrong) or a powertrain systems engineer. :-P - Verr?ckt 2006-01-12 08:06:30 (273 views)

For the record, I never said it didn't change, I just said that it didn't change as much as the... - NO.BRAZIL (barf) 2006-01-18 11:38:42 (224 views)

me = sucks at the physics..so I wont argue with you - KRS-S4 2006-01-12 09:55:45 (228 views)

its not linear, but its not a fixed amount either, nor is the 2nd order component's slope negative - nyet 2006-01-11 23:58:13 (321 views)

No I am not that stubborn.... - KRS-S4 2006-01-12 10:00:20 (262 views)

that is incorrect sir - KRS-S4 2006-01-11 13:49:40 (229 views)

Friction loss does not necessarily go up with power. What are you smoking? - NO.BRAZIL (barf) 2006-01-11 12:01:39 (316 views)

think about a sliding block, basic mechanics. - ModifiedA4 2006-01-12 06:28:05 (268 views)

Listen. I have a master's in ME. I know this shiz. You aren't getting my point. - NO.BRAZIL (barf) 2006-01-18 11:34:35 (215 views)

i've reread this part of the thread... - ModifiedA4 2006-01-19 06:24:05 (218 views)

I went (go) to University of Washington. - NO.BRAZIL (barf) 2006-01-19 08:24:04 (228 views)

i went to RPI... - ModifiedA4 2006-01-19 09:55:49 (225 views)

I posted in this thread ;-) - Mark P 2006-01-19 20:42:17 (172 views)

ayup :) - ModifiedA4 2006-01-20 05:51:49 (178 views)

or two - Oo.et.oO 2006-01-19 19:57:44 (203 views)

heh, cool :) - ModifiedA4 2006-01-19 20:06:12 (190 views)

It's not so simple. - Verr?ckt 2006-01-11 18:42:47 (270 views)

unless it has better efficiency - rickyS4 2006-01-11 10:28:23 (329 views)

NO transmission has "better" efficency with more hp - nyet 2006-01-11 14:58:48 (275 views)

For every reaction, there is an equal and opposite reaction... - Marcus Frost 2006-01-11 09:59:41 (335 views)

Agreed, but we are comparing apples to apples with what is considered standard by most. - Mark@AutoSpeed 2006-01-11 09:13:25 (333 views)

I understand. Standard is standard. All I'm saying is that 28% is a little high for the car. - NO.BRAZIL (barf) 2006-01-11 13:35:44 (252 views)

it's not 28% ..... it's 21.5% drivetrain+dyno loss - Mark P 2006-01-11 13:44:45 (260 views)

Right, but I still think it's more like 580 CHP, not over 600. - NO.BRAZIL (barf) 2006-01-11 13:51:20 (232 views)

I don't want to say I told you so, but... - NO.BRAZIL (barf) 2006-01-18 11:35:52 (217 views)

agreed, btw. I have NEVER seen any dyno (except for the maha) that represented whp accurately - nyet 2006-01-18 11:39:47 (256 views)

Good call... either way, damn impressive numbers. I want to head to the dyno soon. - NO.BRAZIL (barf) 2006-01-18 11:43:25 (207 views)

no, im pretty much done messing around. looks like thats all im going to get out of 91oct with this - nyet 2006-01-18 11:47:48 (224 views)

based on... what exactly? - nyet 2006-01-11 14:57:28 (295 views)

yeah, but who cares about crank! whp is/should be the only thing that matters :) - KRS-S4 2006-01-11 14:08:23 (237 views)

yup...if you look at it... 100% * (1/1.28) = 21.5%. same thing...i just like - BiturboBoy_V2.0_S3-- 2006-01-11 08:47:26 (320 views)

I agree completely - I was just pointing out the # that might be familiar to others - Mark P 2006-01-11 08:57:29 (322 views)

ah ok. makes sense. - BiturboBoy_V2.0_S3-- 2006-01-11 09:00:15 (300 views)

SON OF A BISH!!! - Fixn2xlr8 2006-01-11 07:52:25 (354 views)

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