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from your posts, i'm guessing your brakes come on quick...

Posted by: ryans4 on 2005-06-03 09:01:44
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In Reply to: Yeah, exactly posted by Pat-SoCal on 2005-06-03 08:58:28

...but I think you'd be surprised how not long my pedal travel is.

You should drive the car, though I'm not really happy with the front pads. Going to try running Ferodo 2500 all around next time.

Thread:

New thread.. Brakes what has Pat tried, and what is his summary, Ryan and others may chime in - Milpitas2.7T 2005-06-02 11:46:50 (471 views)

all are better then the stock anchors, but like everything, how much do you want to spend... - ryans4 2005-06-02 12:58:32 (3710 views)

Got another question for you if you don't mind... - RocketBoy 2005-06-02 21:59:48 (306 views)

actually, i'm backwards, the leading edge of the pad is hotter then the trailing edge... - ryans4 2005-06-03 08:12:53 (305 views)

I think stock brakes grab HARD with very little pedal pressure, how do the various kits compare to - mjtaylor 2005-06-02 15:26:43 (359 views)

well, you have to assume the same pad. At that point, pedal feel is going to be based on pistons... - ryans4 2005-06-02 15:41:23 (424 views)

Depends on which pad you have in there... - RKA 2005-06-02 15:39:49 (373 views)

Do you think that caliper displacement has any significant affect on brake actuation time, or the - RocketBoy 2005-06-02 14:46:10 (336 views)

I think it's more the piston seals then anything else that you'll notice with on/off times... - ryans4 2005-06-02 14:57:55 (334 views)

How do piston seals affect actuation times? Is it stretching of the seals under pressure increasing - RocketBoy 2005-06-02 21:55:04 (246 views)

the seals retract the piston when off the brakes... - ryans4 2005-06-03 07:59:16 (318 views)

Of course there will be. *edit in regards to time vs. pressure* - Pat-SoCal 2005-06-02 14:56:52 (292 views)

That's a good point. I have always wondered about the ability of stock master cylinders to be able - RocketBoy 2005-06-02 22:05:08 (244 views)

I have a question... - RKA 2005-06-02 13:59:32 (359 views)

Jumping to eight pistons often means less pad area. - ryoung 2005-06-02 22:09:58 (509 views)

does 8 pistons always mean 2 pads per side like that? - Andrew C. 2005-06-02 22:39:00 (294 views)

Not certain, but I believe yes. - ryoung 2005-06-02 23:10:04 (284 views)

Hmmm... - ryans4 2005-06-02 14:24:41 (761 views)

Re: F1 brake calipers - ryoung 2005-06-03 00:26:39 (392 views)

good to know. Interesting that the caliper is that long for only 6 or 4 pistons? - ryans4 2005-06-03 07:52:49 (244 views)

They get an amazing amount of stopping power under a 13" wheel. - ryoung 2005-06-03 08:46:48 (228 views)

My simple-minded thoughts for our application: - Pat-SoCal 2005-06-02 14:38:12 (382 views)

oh sure, if you put the whole "B5 S4 street/track car" restriction on it... - ryans4 2005-06-02 14:42:41 (348 views)

Put it in terms of a race car: - Pat-SoCal 2005-06-02 14:49:01 (331 views)

LOL Totally agree - Eric Fletcher 2005-06-02 18:26:15 (279 views)

more pistons doesn't have to mean longer pedal travel? - ryans4 2005-06-03 07:49:41 (366 views)

What I was saying was... - Pat-SoCal 2005-06-03 08:28:19 (317 views)

ok, i do follow you, and you are totally right, but... - ryans4 2005-06-03 08:42:28 (284 views)

Yeah, exactly - Pat-SoCal 2005-06-03 08:58:28 (356 views)

from your posts, i'm guessing your brakes come on quick... - ryans4 2005-06-03 09:01:44 (370 views)

How cute? You guys should hug now... go ahead closing my eyes. - Tomasz@StartupRacing 2005-06-03 10:57:36 (356 views)

i'm not sure I follow you, but I'm sure I agree... - ryans4 2005-06-02 14:52:09 (266 views)

I just started my ESL class :P - Pat-SoCal 2005-06-02 14:58:29 (225 views)

Hero post, please add to FAQ or Searchable archive or something, seriously. - Milpitas2.7T 2005-06-02 13:22:42 (253 views)

Nice writeup. - NO.BRAZIL 2005-06-02 13:21:21 (230 views)

Nice write-up, Ryan. I like how it's pretty objective. - O.W. Kenobi 2005-06-02 13:20:24 (311 views)

2nd Very nice, Ryan! - Pat-SoCal 2005-06-02 13:43:12 (283 views)

3rd, excellent write-up! - ryoung 2005-06-02 22:11:46 (240 views)

with all that being said, I run 6 piston Alcon's... - ryans4 2005-06-02 13:23:34 (265 views)

I run 4-piston Alcons and I would agree that Alcon is the best brake setup for the S4. - NO.BRAZIL 2005-06-02 14:04:28 (326 views)

Thanks for the thread... I was writing you an e-mail when I saw it :P Here we go: - Pat-SoCal 2005-06-02 12:36:36 (679 views)

And to shock Most people here I agree on the "STOPTECH ROCKS" comment - Eric Fletcher 2005-06-02 18:35:34 (402 views)

thanks bro!!! appreciate the info, man more suspension/brake porn :) - Milpitas2.7T 2005-06-02 13:23:29 (337 views)

SKIP the Tilton Master Cylinder... - ryans4 2005-06-02 13:10:40 (315 views)

Yes, I know. Not my car though. - Pat-SoCal 2005-06-02 13:44:39 (303 views)

a year? on a tilton MC? that was downright optimistic. - ryans4 2005-06-02 13:52:53 (236 views)

reasoning you stuck with the 332s? - internecine 2005-06-02 12:51:16 (315 views)

I don't believe there is a necessity for a larger rotor. - Pat-SoCal 2005-06-02 12:57:14 (315 views)

so brake fade wouldent be decreased significantly with a larger rotor? - internecine 2005-06-02 13:03:45 (270 views)

I doubt I'll run into that problem on my car. - Pat-SoCal 2005-06-02 13:41:10 (314 views)

that's really a pad thing... - ryans4 2005-06-02 13:12:24 (413 views)

so why have 370mm rotors? - internecine 2005-06-02 13:18:06 (253 views)

leverage and efficiency increase... - ryans4 2005-06-02 13:20:46 (225 views)

I happy with StopTech fronts and Stasis rears... - Tomasz@StartupRacing 2005-06-02 11:56:48 (445 views)

Same setup as I have. Although I need new rotors and would rather stay away from that Coleman crap - Eric Fletcher 2005-06-02 18:20:46 (298 views)

So what rotor are you going to get? - Tomasz@StartupRacing 2005-06-02 18:49:34 (302 views)

I'm looking at options - Eric Fletcher 2005-06-02 19:14:30 (302 views)

Well... brakes and oil cooler. - Tomasz@StartupRacing 2005-06-03 10:55:18 (264 views)

Naahhh Many yers ago I built a big brake kit for the 5000TQ and 200's (Type 44 cars) - Eric Fletcher 2005-06-03 10:58:39 (364 views)

" I would not recommend it for street use. " the 332 kit, why is that? - Milpitas2.7T 2005-06-02 12:17:40 (253 views)

I believe he means street use *only* as that would be a waste. - DocSlow (Mini P!g) 2005-06-02 12:18:42 (259 views)

Yes! - Tomasz@StartupRacing 2005-06-02 13:29:32 (229 views)

I used the axxis pads on the track (very small track) recently. - DocSlow (Mini P!g) 2005-06-02 11:58:50 (223 views)

How are your brakes now? I ruined a set of rotors - pad material transfer. - Tomasz@StartupRacing 2005-06-02 12:12:01 (328 views)

I had major vibrations under light braking for a while. It's been ~2 weeks now and they seem okay. - DocSlow (Mini P!g) 2005-06-02 12:13:33 (248 views)

Start saving for new rotors... you will see. - Tomasz@StartupRacing 2005-06-02 13:30:35 (359 views)

Pat has Stoptechs on his car. Good enough for him, good enough for me. :) - DocSlow (Mini P!g) 2005-06-02 11:49:02 (268 views)

Ya but think he went thru a few iterations. 355's front and custom rear, now? or other - Milpitas2.7T 2005-06-02 11:55:17 (353 views)

good topic, i've been considering new brakes lately. I'd love to hear what our AW 'pros' recommend - mjtaylor 2005-06-02 11:49:00 (353 views)

ECS stage III has been great for me so far. 17 track days on them so far... - O.W. Kenobi 2005-06-02 11:54:29 (405 views)

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