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And to shock Most people here I agree on the "STOPTECH ROCKS" comment

Posted by: Eric Fletcher on 2005-06-02 18:35:34
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In Reply to: Thanks for the thread... I was writing you an e-mail when I saw it :P Here we go: posted by Pat-SoCal on 2005-06-02 12:36:36

Bob and the gan have been nothing but helpfull for me also.

Like you said it's great to have a company that provides so much tech support even when you start asking them for things out or the normal realm.

Right now IMO Stoptech trumps all for customer service for my app and I also know that goes for Pats App.

Thread:

New thread.. Brakes what has Pat tried, and what is his summary, Ryan and others may chime in - Milpitas2.7T 2005-06-02 11:46:50 (467 views)

all are better then the stock anchors, but like everything, how much do you want to spend... - ryans4 2005-06-02 12:58:32 (3703 views)

Got another question for you if you don't mind... - RocketBoy 2005-06-02 21:59:48 (306 views)

actually, i'm backwards, the leading edge of the pad is hotter then the trailing edge... - ryans4 2005-06-03 08:12:53 (302 views)

I think stock brakes grab HARD with very little pedal pressure, how do the various kits compare to - mjtaylor 2005-06-02 15:26:43 (355 views)

well, you have to assume the same pad. At that point, pedal feel is going to be based on pistons... - ryans4 2005-06-02 15:41:23 (420 views)

Depends on which pad you have in there... - RKA 2005-06-02 15:39:49 (372 views)

Do you think that caliper displacement has any significant affect on brake actuation time, or the - RocketBoy 2005-06-02 14:46:10 (334 views)

I think it's more the piston seals then anything else that you'll notice with on/off times... - ryans4 2005-06-02 14:57:55 (333 views)

How do piston seals affect actuation times? Is it stretching of the seals under pressure increasing - RocketBoy 2005-06-02 21:55:04 (246 views)

the seals retract the piston when off the brakes... - ryans4 2005-06-03 07:59:16 (316 views)

Of course there will be. *edit in regards to time vs. pressure* - Pat-SoCal 2005-06-02 14:56:52 (291 views)

That's a good point. I have always wondered about the ability of stock master cylinders to be able - RocketBoy 2005-06-02 22:05:08 (242 views)

I have a question... - RKA 2005-06-02 13:59:32 (357 views)

Jumping to eight pistons often means less pad area. - ryoung 2005-06-02 22:09:58 (508 views)

does 8 pistons always mean 2 pads per side like that? - Andrew C. 2005-06-02 22:39:00 (292 views)

Not certain, but I believe yes. - ryoung 2005-06-02 23:10:04 (283 views)

Hmmm... - ryans4 2005-06-02 14:24:41 (757 views)

Re: F1 brake calipers - ryoung 2005-06-03 00:26:39 (387 views)

good to know. Interesting that the caliper is that long for only 6 or 4 pistons? - ryans4 2005-06-03 07:52:49 (242 views)

They get an amazing amount of stopping power under a 13" wheel. - ryoung 2005-06-03 08:46:48 (226 views)

My simple-minded thoughts for our application: - Pat-SoCal 2005-06-02 14:38:12 (379 views)

oh sure, if you put the whole "B5 S4 street/track car" restriction on it... - ryans4 2005-06-02 14:42:41 (343 views)

Put it in terms of a race car: - Pat-SoCal 2005-06-02 14:49:01 (330 views)

LOL Totally agree - Eric Fletcher 2005-06-02 18:26:15 (276 views)

more pistons doesn't have to mean longer pedal travel? - ryans4 2005-06-03 07:49:41 (363 views)

What I was saying was... - Pat-SoCal 2005-06-03 08:28:19 (317 views)

ok, i do follow you, and you are totally right, but... - ryans4 2005-06-03 08:42:28 (283 views)

Yeah, exactly - Pat-SoCal 2005-06-03 08:58:28 (353 views)

from your posts, i'm guessing your brakes come on quick... - ryans4 2005-06-03 09:01:44 (365 views)

How cute? You guys should hug now... go ahead closing my eyes. - Tomasz@StartupRacing 2005-06-03 10:57:36 (354 views)

i'm not sure I follow you, but I'm sure I agree... - ryans4 2005-06-02 14:52:09 (264 views)

I just started my ESL class :P - Pat-SoCal 2005-06-02 14:58:29 (224 views)

Hero post, please add to FAQ or Searchable archive or something, seriously. - Milpitas2.7T 2005-06-02 13:22:42 (252 views)

Nice writeup. - NO.BRAZIL 2005-06-02 13:21:21 (230 views)

Nice write-up, Ryan. I like how it's pretty objective. - O.W. Kenobi 2005-06-02 13:20:24 (307 views)

2nd Very nice, Ryan! - Pat-SoCal 2005-06-02 13:43:12 (282 views)

3rd, excellent write-up! - ryoung 2005-06-02 22:11:46 (239 views)

with all that being said, I run 6 piston Alcon's... - ryans4 2005-06-02 13:23:34 (265 views)

I run 4-piston Alcons and I would agree that Alcon is the best brake setup for the S4. - NO.BRAZIL 2005-06-02 14:04:28 (326 views)

Thanks for the thread... I was writing you an e-mail when I saw it :P Here we go: - Pat-SoCal 2005-06-02 12:36:36 (677 views)

And to shock Most people here I agree on the "STOPTECH ROCKS" comment - Eric Fletcher 2005-06-02 18:35:34 (399 views)

thanks bro!!! appreciate the info, man more suspension/brake porn :) - Milpitas2.7T 2005-06-02 13:23:29 (336 views)

SKIP the Tilton Master Cylinder... - ryans4 2005-06-02 13:10:40 (313 views)

Yes, I know. Not my car though. - Pat-SoCal 2005-06-02 13:44:39 (299 views)

a year? on a tilton MC? that was downright optimistic. - ryans4 2005-06-02 13:52:53 (235 views)

reasoning you stuck with the 332s? - internecine 2005-06-02 12:51:16 (313 views)

I don't believe there is a necessity for a larger rotor. - Pat-SoCal 2005-06-02 12:57:14 (313 views)

so brake fade wouldent be decreased significantly with a larger rotor? - internecine 2005-06-02 13:03:45 (269 views)

I doubt I'll run into that problem on my car. - Pat-SoCal 2005-06-02 13:41:10 (313 views)

that's really a pad thing... - ryans4 2005-06-02 13:12:24 (410 views)

so why have 370mm rotors? - internecine 2005-06-02 13:18:06 (251 views)

leverage and efficiency increase... - ryans4 2005-06-02 13:20:46 (225 views)

I happy with StopTech fronts and Stasis rears... - Tomasz@StartupRacing 2005-06-02 11:56:48 (442 views)

Same setup as I have. Although I need new rotors and would rather stay away from that Coleman crap - Eric Fletcher 2005-06-02 18:20:46 (295 views)

So what rotor are you going to get? - Tomasz@StartupRacing 2005-06-02 18:49:34 (301 views)

I'm looking at options - Eric Fletcher 2005-06-02 19:14:30 (300 views)

Well... brakes and oil cooler. - Tomasz@StartupRacing 2005-06-03 10:55:18 (262 views)

Naahhh Many yers ago I built a big brake kit for the 5000TQ and 200's (Type 44 cars) - Eric Fletcher 2005-06-03 10:58:39 (361 views)

" I would not recommend it for street use. " the 332 kit, why is that? - Milpitas2.7T 2005-06-02 12:17:40 (252 views)

I believe he means street use *only* as that would be a waste. - DocSlow (Mini P!g) 2005-06-02 12:18:42 (257 views)

Yes! - Tomasz@StartupRacing 2005-06-02 13:29:32 (227 views)

I used the axxis pads on the track (very small track) recently. - DocSlow (Mini P!g) 2005-06-02 11:58:50 (223 views)

How are your brakes now? I ruined a set of rotors - pad material transfer. - Tomasz@StartupRacing 2005-06-02 12:12:01 (325 views)

I had major vibrations under light braking for a while. It's been ~2 weeks now and they seem okay. - DocSlow (Mini P!g) 2005-06-02 12:13:33 (248 views)

Start saving for new rotors... you will see. - Tomasz@StartupRacing 2005-06-02 13:30:35 (358 views)

Pat has Stoptechs on his car. Good enough for him, good enough for me. :) - DocSlow (Mini P!g) 2005-06-02 11:49:02 (267 views)

Ya but think he went thru a few iterations. 355's front and custom rear, now? or other - Milpitas2.7T 2005-06-02 11:55:17 (351 views)

good topic, i've been considering new brakes lately. I'd love to hear what our AW 'pros' recommend - mjtaylor 2005-06-02 11:49:00 (351 views)

ECS stage III has been great for me so far. 17 track days on them so far... - O.W. Kenobi 2005-06-02 11:54:29 (402 views)

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