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Your tracked threads
New thread.. Brakes what has Pat tried, and what is his summary, Ryan and others may chime in
Posted by:
Milpitas2.7T on 2005-06-02 11:46:50
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New thread.. Brakes what has Pat tried, and what is his summary, Ryan and others may chime in
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Milpitas2.7T
2005-06-02 11:46:50
(463 views)
all are better then the stock anchors, but like everything, how much do you want to spend...
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ryans4
2005-06-02 12:58:32
(3694 views)
Got another question for you if you don't mind...
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RocketBoy
2005-06-02 21:59:48
(304 views)
actually, i'm backwards, the leading edge of the pad is hotter then the trailing edge...
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ryans4
2005-06-03 08:12:53
(297 views)
I think stock brakes grab HARD with very little pedal pressure, how do the various kits compare to
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mjtaylor
2005-06-02 15:26:43
(353 views)
well, you have to assume the same pad. At that point, pedal feel is going to be based on pistons...
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ryans4
2005-06-02 15:41:23
(417 views)
Depends on which pad you have in there...
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RKA
2005-06-02 15:39:49
(370 views)
Do you think that caliper displacement has any significant affect on brake actuation time, or the
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RocketBoy
2005-06-02 14:46:10
(329 views)
I think it's more the piston seals then anything else that you'll notice with on/off times...
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ryans4
2005-06-02 14:57:55
(327 views)
How do piston seals affect actuation times? Is it stretching of the seals under pressure increasing
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RocketBoy
2005-06-02 21:55:04
(243 views)
the seals retract the piston when off the brakes...
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ryans4
2005-06-03 07:59:16
(311 views)
Of course there will be. *edit in regards to time vs. pressure*
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Pat-SoCal
2005-06-02 14:56:52
(289 views)
That's a good point. I have always wondered about the ability of stock master cylinders to be able
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RocketBoy
2005-06-02 22:05:08
(240 views)
I have a question...
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RKA
2005-06-02 13:59:32
(352 views)
Jumping to eight pistons often means less pad area.
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ryoung
2005-06-02 22:09:58
(503 views)
does 8 pistons always mean 2 pads per side like that?
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Andrew C.
2005-06-02 22:39:00
(286 views)
Not certain, but I believe yes.
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ryoung
2005-06-02 23:10:04
(279 views)
Hmmm...
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ryans4
2005-06-02 14:24:41
(754 views)
Re: F1 brake calipers
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ryoung
2005-06-03 00:26:39
(382 views)
good to know. Interesting that the caliper is that long for only 6 or 4 pistons?
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ryans4
2005-06-03 07:52:49
(240 views)
They get an amazing amount of stopping power under a 13" wheel.
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ryoung
2005-06-03 08:46:48
(224 views)
My simple-minded thoughts for our application:
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Pat-SoCal
2005-06-02 14:38:12
(377 views)
oh sure, if you put the whole "B5 S4 street/track car" restriction on it...
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ryans4
2005-06-02 14:42:41
(339 views)
Put it in terms of a race car:
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Pat-SoCal
2005-06-02 14:49:01
(327 views)
LOL Totally agree
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Eric Fletcher
2005-06-02 18:26:15
(272 views)
more pistons doesn't have to mean longer pedal travel?
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ryans4
2005-06-03 07:49:41
(359 views)
What I was saying was...
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Pat-SoCal
2005-06-03 08:28:19
(314 views)
ok, i do follow you, and you are totally right, but...
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ryans4
2005-06-03 08:42:28
(281 views)
Yeah, exactly
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Pat-SoCal
2005-06-03 08:58:28
(349 views)
from your posts, i'm guessing your brakes come on quick...
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ryans4
2005-06-03 09:01:44
(361 views)
How cute? You guys should hug now... go ahead closing my eyes.
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Tomasz@StartupRacing
2005-06-03 10:57:36
(349 views)
i'm not sure I follow you, but I'm sure I agree...
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ryans4
2005-06-02 14:52:09
(260 views)
I just started my ESL class :P
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Pat-SoCal
2005-06-02 14:58:29
(220 views)
Hero post, please add to FAQ or Searchable archive or something, seriously.
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Milpitas2.7T
2005-06-02 13:22:42
(250 views)
Nice writeup.
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NO.BRAZIL
2005-06-02 13:21:21
(227 views)
Nice write-up, Ryan. I like how it's pretty objective.
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O.W. Kenobi
2005-06-02 13:20:24
(303 views)
2nd Very nice, Ryan!
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Pat-SoCal
2005-06-02 13:43:12
(277 views)
3rd, excellent write-up!
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ryoung
2005-06-02 22:11:46
(237 views)
with all that being said, I run 6 piston Alcon's...
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ryans4
2005-06-02 13:23:34
(262 views)
I run 4-piston Alcons and I would agree that Alcon is the best brake setup for the S4.
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NO.BRAZIL
2005-06-02 14:04:28
(324 views)
Thanks for the thread... I was writing you an e-mail when I saw it :P Here we go:
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Pat-SoCal
2005-06-02 12:36:36
(676 views)
And to shock Most people here I agree on the "STOPTECH ROCKS" comment
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Eric Fletcher
2005-06-02 18:35:34
(394 views)
thanks bro!!! appreciate the info, man more suspension/brake porn :)
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Milpitas2.7T
2005-06-02 13:23:29
(331 views)
SKIP the Tilton Master Cylinder...
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ryans4
2005-06-02 13:10:40
(310 views)
Yes, I know. Not my car though.
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Pat-SoCal
2005-06-02 13:44:39
(295 views)
a year? on a tilton MC? that was downright optimistic.
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ryans4
2005-06-02 13:52:53
(233 views)
reasoning you stuck with the 332s?
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internecine
2005-06-02 12:51:16
(309 views)
I don't believe there is a necessity for a larger rotor.
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Pat-SoCal
2005-06-02 12:57:14
(311 views)
so brake fade wouldent be decreased significantly with a larger rotor?
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internecine
2005-06-02 13:03:45
(268 views)
I doubt I'll run into that problem on my car.
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Pat-SoCal
2005-06-02 13:41:10
(310 views)
that's really a pad thing...
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ryans4
2005-06-02 13:12:24
(405 views)
so why have 370mm rotors?
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internecine
2005-06-02 13:18:06
(248 views)
leverage and efficiency increase...
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ryans4
2005-06-02 13:20:46
(223 views)
I happy with StopTech fronts and Stasis rears...
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Tomasz@StartupRacing
2005-06-02 11:56:48
(441 views)
Same setup as I have. Although I need new rotors and would rather stay away from that Coleman crap
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Eric Fletcher
2005-06-02 18:20:46
(293 views)
So what rotor are you going to get?
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Tomasz@StartupRacing
2005-06-02 18:49:34
(299 views)
I'm looking at options
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Eric Fletcher
2005-06-02 19:14:30
(298 views)
Well... brakes and oil cooler.
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Tomasz@StartupRacing
2005-06-03 10:55:18
(259 views)
Naahhh Many yers ago I built a big brake kit for the 5000TQ and 200's (Type 44 cars)
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Eric Fletcher
2005-06-03 10:58:39
(356 views)
" I would not recommend it for street use. " the 332 kit, why is that?
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Milpitas2.7T
2005-06-02 12:17:40
(249 views)
I believe he means street use *only* as that would be a waste.
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DocSlow (Mini P!g)
2005-06-02 12:18:42
(252 views)
Yes!
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Tomasz@StartupRacing
2005-06-02 13:29:32
(225 views)
I used the axxis pads on the track (very small track) recently.
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DocSlow (Mini P!g)
2005-06-02 11:58:50
(220 views)
How are your brakes now? I ruined a set of rotors - pad material transfer.
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Tomasz@StartupRacing
2005-06-02 12:12:01
(320 views)
I had major vibrations under light braking for a while. It's been ~2 weeks now and they seem okay.
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DocSlow (Mini P!g)
2005-06-02 12:13:33
(246 views)
Start saving for new rotors... you will see.
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Tomasz@StartupRacing
2005-06-02 13:30:35
(354 views)
Pat has Stoptechs on his car. Good enough for him, good enough for me. :)
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DocSlow (Mini P!g)
2005-06-02 11:49:02
(265 views)
Ya but think he went thru a few iterations. 355's front and custom rear, now? or other
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Milpitas2.7T
2005-06-02 11:55:17
(345 views)
good topic, i've been considering new brakes lately. I'd love to hear what our AW 'pros' recommend
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mjtaylor
2005-06-02 11:49:00
(347 views)
ECS stage III has been great for me so far. 17 track days on them so far...
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O.W. Kenobi
2005-06-02 11:54:29
(397 views)
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