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Good point....correction....

Posted by: QCRAZY on 2004-04-21 12:05:55
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In Reply to: so does that mean the VR6's run significantly hotter? this isn't the first post i've seen posted by Andrew C::FATS on 2004-04-21 11:09:59

The sensor listed previously, 357 919 369 E, runs the electric fan / A/C. VR6's use a 3 stage sensor for it; turns on at 112C and off at 108C....and it turns off the A/C at 119C. Probably runs high speed for the electric fan.

Looking closer; the after-run pump is run by sensor, 701 919 369 D. This is a 20mm, 4-pin sensor and also serves as the temperature sensor. This sensor switches closed at 100C and opens at 95C.

VR6 (#5-369D and #7-369E):

S4 (#3A):

Note: Auto VR6's without A/C use the S4 sensor, 357 919 369 F.

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I've read somewhere that putting on a turbo timer is a waste of money because S4 has the after-run - axecheerful 2004-04-20 09:16:47 (835 views)

Update: It WORKED!!!! - QCRAZY 2004-04-29 07:36:57 (874 views)

NICE!!!!!! hopefully someone can do a voltmeter/boiling water test - ModifiedA4 2004-04-29 08:42:09 (279 views)

No doubt! Thank again! - QCRAZY 2004-04-29 08:53:16 (306 views)

Update: I got the new thermoswitch.... - QCRAZY 2004-04-27 13:58:29 (393 views)

thanks for the update...not a good sign that the o-ring isnt the same... - ModifiedA4 2004-04-27 14:05:16 (319 views)

Cool (pun intended). Can't wait to hear the results. - DAP@PEB tuning 2004-04-27 14:00:54 (251 views)

What's the conclusion?? :) - axecheerful 2004-04-22 08:10:35 (276 views)

It keeps coolant flowing, not oil... nor does it (m)... - +pressure 2004-04-20 16:12:09 (318 views)

My 98 vr6 gti had the same pump and that thing ran.... - blslhi 2004-04-20 15:31:35 (394 views)

if anybody in socal has one of those i'd be glad to guinea pig for a bit - nyet 2004-04-20 15:50:09 (281 views)

VR6's use p/n: 357 919 369E. It runs at the same temp and it's a 4-pin. - QCRAZY 2004-04-21 06:59:56 (305 views)

either that, or they are placed "better" :) - nyet 2004-04-21 11:56:00 (261 views)

so does that mean the VR6's run significantly hotter? this isn't the first post i've seen - Andrew C::FATS 2004-04-21 11:09:59 (320 views)

VR6's do tend to run hot, especially in Corrados. - LaserK04 2004-04-29 10:40:02 (255 views)

Good point....correction.... - QCRAZY 2004-04-21 12:05:55 (349 views)

tech article - ModifiedA4 2004-04-20 09:24:37 (586 views)

It won't run unless you reach a certain temp (250 degrees maybe?) - Doc@PEB tuning 2004-04-20 09:20:31 (411 views)

i dont understand why you guys just dont buy a lower temp afterrun thermoswitch. - ModifiedA4 2004-04-20 09:25:26 (495 views)

It just isn't necessary. Plain and simple, NOT NECESSARY! - Doc@PEB tuning 2004-04-20 09:27:04 (466 views)

no, but its simple, cheap added protection. - ModifiedA4 2004-04-20 09:29:53 (439 views)

There is one reason no one has done this mod. We are too lazy to find the right thermoswitch - Zzak:FATS 2004-04-20 10:14:21 (382 views)

question, if you just short it out, won't it ALWAYS run for 10 mins after shutdown, then turn off? - nyet 2004-04-20 15:37:54 (397 views)

Yes it will run for the 10min max if you just short it out. - Bad MAF 2004-04-20 15:48:15 (259 views)

i may just do that, summer is almost here - nyet 2004-04-20 15:51:24 (281 views)

No drawbacks that I ran into running it for a couple months... - Bad MAF 2004-04-20 15:56:18 (276 views)

oh, and one more, is the afterrun thermoswitch one of the relays in vag m-block 136? - nyet 2004-04-20 16:09:49 (330 views)

ok, next question, how hot do you think it gets near a turbo (ambient air, not directly touching)... - nyet 2004-04-20 16:02:01 (322 views)

somebody give me specs for the stock one, ill try to dig something up. - nyet 2004-04-20 11:03:48 (272 views)

Existing p/n: 357 919 369F - QCRAZY 2004-04-20 11:22:38 (598 views)

Agreed. If someone posted the part number of an appropriate thermoswitch, I'd be all over it. - DAP@PEB tuning 2004-04-20 10:46:26 (262 views)

i did some etka-ing last night and found about 4 mechanically compatible thermoswitches. - ModifiedA4 2004-04-21 11:55:12 (385 views)

Depends on the order. If it's shown like you have it... - QCRAZY 2004-04-21 12:10:29 (274 views)

all the P/Ns ive sourced are 2 pin only. the one i listed is a 2pin switch spec'd... - ModifiedA4 2004-04-21 12:27:47 (314 views)

Yeah, you're right...I was thinking to fast (about the pins)...had to go work :) - QCRAZY 2004-04-21 12:54:07 (284 views)

i have the part numbers/specs at home...tonight ill post the ones ive found. - ModifiedA4 2004-04-21 13:30:55 (239 views)

Cool. I'm trying to contact Behr as well. - QCRAZY 2004-04-21 14:27:14 (239 views)

ok some part numbers. im not sure of the difference between slashes and dashes with regards to temp. - ModifiedA4 2004-04-22 15:55:35 (272 views)

Great!...more.... (EDITED) - QCRAZY 2004-04-23 07:21:35 (641 views)

are you going to throw this thing in a pot of boiling water with a voltmeter and test it? - ModifiedA4 2004-04-23 10:34:02 (229 views)

Nah, I know that's how it works. I only do "the water" when the system stops working :) - QCRAZY 2004-04-23 10:38:44 (244 views)

one other idea i had.... - ModifiedA4 2004-04-23 10:40:53 (284 views)

Yeah, that would work too. Except when my wife drove the car....I better make it automatic :-) - QCRAZY 2004-04-23 10:49:02 (239 views)

yup ;) - nyet 2004-04-23 10:46:49 (264 views)

hehe, great minds think alike :) - ModifiedA4 2004-04-23 10:53:23 (308 views)

outstanding, calling my dealer now - nyet 2004-04-23 10:30:54 (344 views)

yeah it is used in the eurovan. i'd wait until qcrazy gets the part and it works as suspected. - ModifiedA4 2004-04-23 10:32:31 (249 views)

i figure if i can get it sooner than him, i might save him some cash :) - nyet 2004-04-23 10:34:24 (233 views)

Too late.....I ordered it so I'm screwed :-) - QCRAZY 2004-04-23 10:39:28 (246 views)

hehe...i hope it works out. - ModifiedA4 2004-04-23 10:37:56 (271 views)

im not quite understanding the temp analysis... - ModifiedA4 2004-04-23 07:53:09 (344 views)

Here.... - QCRAZY 2004-04-23 08:36:55 (390 views)

ok...thanks for the explaination... - ModifiedA4 2004-04-23 10:24:52 (273 views)

No, I actually meant the heater core.... - QCRAZY 2004-04-23 10:42:45 (326 views)

"could be why so many of the pumps fail"... if they would ever cycle in the first place!!! - DAP@PEB tuning 2004-04-23 08:46:05 (237 views)

I think what he's saying with that switch is... - DAP@PEB tuning 2004-04-23 08:19:03 (274 views)

oh ok...so this switch may be plug and play...nice! - ModifiedA4 2004-04-23 08:30:41 (318 views)

Nice! Be sure to keep us updated! - DAP@PEB tuning 2004-04-23 07:26:54 (237 views)

Will do! Part won't come in until next week..... - QCRAZY 2004-04-23 07:44:04 (234 views)

:) - DAP@PEB tuning 2004-04-23 07:44:38 (244 views)

SWEET. - nyet 2004-04-21 14:53:41 (295 views)

whoa, you are getting ahead of your self. - nyet 2004-04-21 12:13:54 (263 views)

Re: whoa, you are getting ahead of your self. - QCRAZY 2004-04-21 12:50:40 (249 views)

or possibly tolerances? - nyet 2004-04-21 11:56:49 (307 views)

I'll second that - stj3570 2004-04-20 13:20:07 (276 views)

If someone found/made this sensor what temperature... - QCRAZY 2004-04-20 14:41:47 (288 views)

i'd say 80-90C maybe - nyet 2004-04-20 14:45:45 (321 views)

Interesting point...oil temp isn't in there. - gk1 2004-04-21 17:04:20 (245 views)

Check block 134 - QCRAZY 2004-04-21 06:58:06 (253 views)

BTDT nothing there on 2.7t's ;( - nyet 2004-04-21 11:54:45 (238 views)

HEAT SOAK! :) - ToastyK04s 2004-04-20 09:24:16 (340 views)

So are you saying that you dont need to cool down your turbo unless the oil temp hits 250F? Mine - axecheerful 2004-04-20 09:23:46 (441 views)

It's coolant temp....112C = 234 F - QCRAZY 2004-04-20 09:50:14 (304 views)

oil temp on the dash has little to do with the local temp of the turbos. - ModifiedA4 2004-04-20 09:26:41 (260 views)

Why? What does the oil temp on the dashboard really indicate then? - axecheerful 2004-04-20 15:03:25 (224 views)

the temperature of the oil :) - nyet 2004-04-20 15:12:27 (372 views)

*ding* - ModifiedA4 2004-04-20 20:14:35 (281 views)

That is not what I am saying at all. I'm saying the pump won't run until 250 or so. - Doc@PEB tuning 2004-04-20 09:25:58 (337 views)

That means that you dont really know when you could turn off your engine... if there's only a way to - axecheerful 2004-04-20 15:04:37 (324 views)

That is identical to my own proceedure....still lost my ko3s - ToastyK04s 2004-04-20 09:27:16 (360 views)

I dont want to lose my k03 :) So does it mean I still need to idle my engine (a.k.a buy a turbo time - axecheerful 2004-04-20 10:04:31 (303 views)

I'm not worried. - Doc@PEB tuning 2004-04-20 09:27:51 (323 views)

I guess that's just that fearless midget spirit... - ToastyK04s 2004-04-20 11:26:28 (248 views)

Coolant - QCRAZY 2004-04-20 09:18:15 (270 views)

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