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pic doesnt work. ok so idealy i would want

Posted by: 2000s4biturbo on 2004-03-19 11:06:27
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In Reply to: Read Mark's post. It depends on what you are trying to accomplish. posted by DAP on 2004-03-19 11:01:46

chip+mbc, OR MBC+stand alone fuel management...
of course these are if i want more more power than the chip will give me.

ill try to take it one step further agree if im correct. the chip the the easy, "safe" way to get power. but MBC with Fuel mngmt(and fuel upgrades) will get more power, but more work and tuning is involved.

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Thread:

Since there seem to be a lot of questions on how N75 vs MBC vs Both affect boost, I drew this up... - Mark P 2004-03-19 08:48:12 (14986 views)

Another option is just to run a EBC (like I'm doing now) - Joshua (wishbone) 2004-03-19 14:17:14 (1489 views)

What chip software are you running? - Verrückt 2004-03-19 14:27:15 (716 views)

I'm running GAIC X, so I don't see any deviation codes, but I don't run much higher than 18-19 PSI - Joshua (wishbone) 2004-03-19 14:28:28 (846 views)

would a mbc in parallel control spikes up high as well as down low? - shl rider 2004-03-19 11:41:31 (862 views)

Whenever the boost reaches the set value of the MBC, the MBC bleeds off the extra - Mark P 2004-03-19 11:52:48 (864 views)

Everywhere ... When used in parallel, it would control the upper boost threshold - jbear@work 2004-03-19 11:45:05 (752 views)

That is correct. That is how mine is set. - DAP 2004-03-19 11:46:27 (604 views)

damn... looks like I need a MBC - Why would one not do it ? - sfored 2004-03-19 10:51:30 (765 views)

GFB manual boost controllers in stock. - Jason @ ND 2004-03-19 11:25:40 (1556 views)

How much? Can't find it on your website. - VonK :: Indukted 2004-03-19 14:52:34 (613 views)

Cooling fins will add at least 5% powa. ;) - VonK :: Indukted 2004-03-19 13:32:18 (745 views)

Damn that's ugly... - reefer_bob 2004-03-19 12:23:33 (600 views)

And you think those brass hardware store MBCs out there aren't?! - Jason @ ND 2004-03-19 14:24:19 (657 views)

"Why would one not do it?" - W0LSC0D(Anti-Rice) 2004-03-19 10:57:35 (785 views)

i was always under the impression that you coulndt run an mbc on - 2000s4biturbo 2004-03-19 10:50:59 (1051 views)

Answers inside... - Verrückt 2004-03-19 11:21:53 (1110 views)

Nope. - DAP 2004-03-19 10:56:22 (648 views)

so i just hook it up the same way i would run any MBC? - 2000s4biturbo 2004-03-19 10:57:35 (736 views)

Read Mark's post. It depends on what you are trying to accomplish. - DAP 2004-03-19 11:01:46 (2554 views)

pic doesnt work. ok so idealy i would want - 2000s4biturbo 2004-03-19 11:06:27 (769 views)

If you don't have boost spikes and you aren't doing any fuel upgrades, the chip by itself is fine. - DAP 2004-03-19 11:08:02 (583 views)

alright sounds good. thanks for clearing some stuff up for me !!!!!! - 2000s4biturbo 2004-03-19 11:10:05 (500 views)

red - W0LSC0D(Anti-Rice) 2004-03-19 11:03:28 (616 views)

Right click, show picture. - DAP 2004-03-19 11:05:30 (599 views)

<Stepping aside for DAP to deflower the n00b> - W0LSC0D(Anti-Rice) 2004-03-19 10:58:13 (584 views)

deflower! but im not a noob 8-P , i just never looked into - 2000s4biturbo 2004-03-19 11:03:06 (625 views)

Sound like a n00b to me. - mpwolf 2004-03-19 11:41:34 (509 views)

I was just kidding, man. I meant no disrespect. - W0LSC0D(Anti-Rice) 2004-03-19 11:05:25 (483 views)

lol i didnt get offended. - 2000s4biturbo 2004-03-19 11:09:30 (514 views)

No, no, no! Look at the diagram. - DAP 2004-03-19 11:04:18 (578 views)

i posted before you got the diagram up. thanks a million :-) - 2000s4biturbo 2004-03-19 11:09:02 (487 views)

<bowing graciously> :P - DAP 2004-03-19 11:02:42 (457 views)

BTW, I think boost builds quicker no matter which way you have the MBC set up. However... - W0LSC0D(Anti-Rice) 2004-03-19 09:49:12 (894 views)

I agree. - DAP 2004-03-19 10:37:51 (527 views)

I feel like I am talking to myself when I respond to you :p - W0LSC0D(Anti-Rice) 2004-03-19 10:39:35 (471 views)

Great minds... - DAP 2004-03-19 10:46:16 (469 views)

I'm far far far far far from a great a mind, but thanks! - W0LSC0D(Anti-Rice) 2004-03-19 10:47:30 (464 views)

Awesome representation Mark! - Verrückt 2004-03-19 09:47:50 (461 views)

So which is better? In you opinion, of course ;) - swinmachine 2004-03-19 09:42:28 (529 views)

Totally depends on your setup and what you want to accomplish. - W0LSC0D(Anti-Rice) 2004-03-19 09:44:49 (762 views)

Is it correc to say that MBC alone will yield the most power because... - Swank4 2004-03-19 10:18:16 (773 views)

Peak power may not be much higher, but it will yeild more area under the curve... - Verrückt 2004-03-19 11:16:19 (655 views)

Yeah, that is why I say it depends on your objective. I want power AND reliability. Therefore.... - W0LSC0D(Anti-Rice) 2004-03-19 10:32:49 (692 views)

What's better for the engine i guess? I've got ko4's on ko3 software, so i'm - swinmachine 2004-03-19 10:17:36 (655 views)

Unless you've got fueling upgrades, you probably want the MBC in parallel with the N75. - DAP 2004-03-19 10:39:57 (693 views)

Re: Unless you've got fueling upgrades, you probably want the MBC in parallel with the N75. - iturk 2004-08-15 08:18:59 (627 views)

Okay, from now on, you are in charge of answering questions! We end up saying the same thing :) - W0LSC0D(Anti-Rice) 2004-03-19 10:40:49 (511 views)

I'll accept that awesome responsibility! - DAP 2004-03-19 10:44:43 (484 views)

And i thank you both :) - swinmachine 2004-03-19 10:51:28 (491 views)

"What's better for the engine" They are all fine. - W0LSC0D(Anti-Rice) 2004-03-19 10:35:20 (612 views)

Are boost spikes EVAR good for the engine? - reefer_bob 2004-03-19 10:32:43 (590 views)

Very nice simple explanation! Why didn't I think of that!? - W0LSC0D(Anti-Rice) 2004-03-19 09:24:32 (508 views)

Great info - a side note to others about the blue line - it can still taper down - DarinS4Turbo 2004-03-19 09:23:51 (729 views)

I added a "PPS" :o) - Mark P 2004-03-19 11:00:35 (546 views)

Good point Darin. Closed wastegates on K03's will taper down to 15 psi at redline. - Verrückt 2004-03-19 09:45:53 (821 views)

Exactly! Here is an example of a k03 car running MBC only and tapering.... - W0LSC0D(Anti-Rice) 2004-03-19 09:27:53 (1115 views)

Add a few plumbing diagrams for each setup and make it a tech - jbear@work 2004-03-19 09:17:42 (1447 views)

"Freak of nature"... I like that! :) - DAP 2004-03-19 10:43:41 (497 views)

so should we run MBC's? - 2000s4biturbo 2004-03-19 09:14:15 (592 views)

Absolutely no need if you happy with your current boost delivery. - W0LSC0D(Anti-Rice) 2004-03-19 09:47:12 (664 views)

In parallel with the N75, sure wouldn't hurt it seems.... - reefer_bob 2004-03-19 09:18:50 (774 views)

That about sums it up... This might be a good place also... - reefer_bob 2004-03-19 08:53:00 (885 views)

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