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"Why would one not do it?"

Posted by: W0LSC0D(Anti-Rice) on 2004-03-19 10:57:35
Account #: 69223

In Reply to: damn... looks like I need a MBC - Why would one not do it ? posted by sfored on 2004-03-19 10:51:30

1.)Most people are lazy and don't want one more
thing to pay attention to (Me, but I decided
it was worth it anyways)

2.)ECU controlled boost is exactly what some
people want. If you like the requested boost
of your ECU, no need to go with either MBC
setup.

Thread:

Since there seem to be a lot of questions on how N75 vs MBC vs Both affect boost, I drew this up... - Mark P 2004-03-19 08:48:12 (15006 views)

Another option is just to run a EBC (like I'm doing now) - Joshua (wishbone) 2004-03-19 14:17:14 (1493 views)

What chip software are you running? - Verrückt 2004-03-19 14:27:15 (717 views)

I'm running GAIC X, so I don't see any deviation codes, but I don't run much higher than 18-19 PSI - Joshua (wishbone) 2004-03-19 14:28:28 (848 views)

would a mbc in parallel control spikes up high as well as down low? - shl rider 2004-03-19 11:41:31 (865 views)

Whenever the boost reaches the set value of the MBC, the MBC bleeds off the extra - Mark P 2004-03-19 11:52:48 (864 views)

Everywhere ... When used in parallel, it would control the upper boost threshold - jbear@work 2004-03-19 11:45:05 (755 views)

That is correct. That is how mine is set. - DAP 2004-03-19 11:46:27 (607 views)

damn... looks like I need a MBC - Why would one not do it ? - sfored 2004-03-19 10:51:30 (767 views)

GFB manual boost controllers in stock. - Jason @ ND 2004-03-19 11:25:40 (1559 views)

How much? Can't find it on your website. - VonK :: Indukted 2004-03-19 14:52:34 (615 views)

Cooling fins will add at least 5% powa. ;) - VonK :: Indukted 2004-03-19 13:32:18 (748 views)

Damn that's ugly... - reefer_bob 2004-03-19 12:23:33 (602 views)

And you think those brass hardware store MBCs out there aren't?! - Jason @ ND 2004-03-19 14:24:19 (658 views)

"Why would one not do it?" - W0LSC0D(Anti-Rice) 2004-03-19 10:57:35 (788 views)

i was always under the impression that you coulndt run an mbc on - 2000s4biturbo 2004-03-19 10:50:59 (1054 views)

Answers inside... - Verrückt 2004-03-19 11:21:53 (1113 views)

Nope. - DAP 2004-03-19 10:56:22 (650 views)

so i just hook it up the same way i would run any MBC? - 2000s4biturbo 2004-03-19 10:57:35 (738 views)

Read Mark's post. It depends on what you are trying to accomplish. - DAP 2004-03-19 11:01:46 (2559 views)

pic doesnt work. ok so idealy i would want - 2000s4biturbo 2004-03-19 11:06:27 (771 views)

If you don't have boost spikes and you aren't doing any fuel upgrades, the chip by itself is fine. - DAP 2004-03-19 11:08:02 (586 views)

alright sounds good. thanks for clearing some stuff up for me !!!!!! - 2000s4biturbo 2004-03-19 11:10:05 (504 views)

red - W0LSC0D(Anti-Rice) 2004-03-19 11:03:28 (620 views)

Right click, show picture. - DAP 2004-03-19 11:05:30 (600 views)

<Stepping aside for DAP to deflower the n00b> - W0LSC0D(Anti-Rice) 2004-03-19 10:58:13 (585 views)

deflower! but im not a noob 8-P , i just never looked into - 2000s4biturbo 2004-03-19 11:03:06 (626 views)

Sound like a n00b to me. - mpwolf 2004-03-19 11:41:34 (510 views)

I was just kidding, man. I meant no disrespect. - W0LSC0D(Anti-Rice) 2004-03-19 11:05:25 (485 views)

lol i didnt get offended. - 2000s4biturbo 2004-03-19 11:09:30 (516 views)

No, no, no! Look at the diagram. - DAP 2004-03-19 11:04:18 (579 views)

i posted before you got the diagram up. thanks a million :-) - 2000s4biturbo 2004-03-19 11:09:02 (488 views)

<bowing graciously> :P - DAP 2004-03-19 11:02:42 (459 views)

BTW, I think boost builds quicker no matter which way you have the MBC set up. However... - W0LSC0D(Anti-Rice) 2004-03-19 09:49:12 (894 views)

I agree. - DAP 2004-03-19 10:37:51 (527 views)

I feel like I am talking to myself when I respond to you :p - W0LSC0D(Anti-Rice) 2004-03-19 10:39:35 (472 views)

Great minds... - DAP 2004-03-19 10:46:16 (471 views)

I'm far far far far far from a great a mind, but thanks! - W0LSC0D(Anti-Rice) 2004-03-19 10:47:30 (465 views)

Awesome representation Mark! - Verrückt 2004-03-19 09:47:50 (462 views)

So which is better? In you opinion, of course ;) - swinmachine 2004-03-19 09:42:28 (531 views)

Totally depends on your setup and what you want to accomplish. - W0LSC0D(Anti-Rice) 2004-03-19 09:44:49 (764 views)

Is it correc to say that MBC alone will yield the most power because... - Swank4 2004-03-19 10:18:16 (775 views)

Peak power may not be much higher, but it will yeild more area under the curve... - Verrückt 2004-03-19 11:16:19 (656 views)

Yeah, that is why I say it depends on your objective. I want power AND reliability. Therefore.... - W0LSC0D(Anti-Rice) 2004-03-19 10:32:49 (695 views)

What's better for the engine i guess? I've got ko4's on ko3 software, so i'm - swinmachine 2004-03-19 10:17:36 (658 views)

Unless you've got fueling upgrades, you probably want the MBC in parallel with the N75. - DAP 2004-03-19 10:39:57 (695 views)

Re: Unless you've got fueling upgrades, you probably want the MBC in parallel with the N75. - iturk 2004-08-15 08:18:59 (631 views)

Okay, from now on, you are in charge of answering questions! We end up saying the same thing :) - W0LSC0D(Anti-Rice) 2004-03-19 10:40:49 (514 views)

I'll accept that awesome responsibility! - DAP 2004-03-19 10:44:43 (487 views)

And i thank you both :) - swinmachine 2004-03-19 10:51:28 (493 views)

"What's better for the engine" They are all fine. - W0LSC0D(Anti-Rice) 2004-03-19 10:35:20 (613 views)

Are boost spikes EVAR good for the engine? - reefer_bob 2004-03-19 10:32:43 (593 views)

Very nice simple explanation! Why didn't I think of that!? - W0LSC0D(Anti-Rice) 2004-03-19 09:24:32 (511 views)

Great info - a side note to others about the blue line - it can still taper down - DarinS4Turbo 2004-03-19 09:23:51 (729 views)

I added a "PPS" :o) - Mark P 2004-03-19 11:00:35 (549 views)

Good point Darin. Closed wastegates on K03's will taper down to 15 psi at redline. - Verrückt 2004-03-19 09:45:53 (824 views)

Exactly! Here is an example of a k03 car running MBC only and tapering.... - W0LSC0D(Anti-Rice) 2004-03-19 09:27:53 (1117 views)

Add a few plumbing diagrams for each setup and make it a tech - jbear@work 2004-03-19 09:17:42 (1449 views)

"Freak of nature"... I like that! :) - DAP 2004-03-19 10:43:41 (499 views)

so should we run MBC's? - 2000s4biturbo 2004-03-19 09:14:15 (594 views)

Absolutely no need if you happy with your current boost delivery. - W0LSC0D(Anti-Rice) 2004-03-19 09:47:12 (665 views)

In parallel with the N75, sure wouldn't hurt it seems.... - reefer_bob 2004-03-19 09:18:50 (775 views)

That about sums it up... This might be a good place also... - reefer_bob 2004-03-19 08:53:00 (888 views)

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