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Yes, but in the original picture the two ICs being compared are the same size in surface area..

Posted by: Santorin1 on 2003-05-07 10:10:14
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In Reply to: Incorrect. I will let Mr.Bell explain it posted by BliTzkrieg Bone Stok on 2003-05-07 09:52:49

so one is not larger than the other...rather, one just has the air going lengthwise through longer charge rows while the second has air going through more rows but less distance.

I'm probably wrong but was just interested in hearing the reasoning behind it.

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FMIC for dummies 101 - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 09:11:43 (10702 views)

Stock Supra Sidemounts anyone? - Funkdariaa 2003-10-16 09:43:16 (768 views)

How is the charge velocity affected by the 1 larger pipe? - BoostLE 2003-05-08 18:45:10 (865 views)

Well there are 2 factrs here. 4 end tanks 2pipes and an extra merge point vs. - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-09 06:12:05 (773 views)

looking at what other twin-turbo cars's do... - BSOD 2003-05-07 11:22:59 (5370 views)

and as an owner of Z's for many years... - TRM 2003-05-08 00:19:48 (827 views)

Just because they make it doesn't mean it is correct for proper airflow. - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 11:34:50 (828 views)

I know. Didn't mean to infer one or the other was correct/better. Just showing what other folks - BSOD 2003-05-07 11:45:40 (620 views)

How about this information: - Audi_80 2003-05-07 11:45:05 (1096 views)

Ow. My brain hurts. - Avantgarde 2003-05-07 14:57:22 (991 views)

That is one of the best sites on the entire friggen net!! Seriously - Milpitas2.7T 2003-05-07 13:43:21 (706 views)

That's a great site, no doubt! - Audi_80 2003-05-07 19:35:47 (599 views)

woah! - Steve Trac 2003-05-07 11:33:01 (1372 views)

No that 350Z is a large cross between the 2 discussed designs - Milpitas2.7T 2003-05-07 11:31:34 (722 views)

that's what i meant, longer horizontal air flow, but 3 end tanks (two into one) - BSOD 2003-05-07 11:43:33 (603 views)

A full FAQ answering all of these questions will be posted tonight. - Josh@Achtuning.com 2003-05-07 10:59:44 (1001 views)

Did this get posted? I STFA and don't see it. - Dan Calle 2003-05-08 12:38:53 (615 views)

It is not finished yet... - Josh@Achtuning.com 2003-05-08 14:22:01 (656 views)

Don't hold your breath. The Erics have been sitting on this for god knows how long. - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-08 12:43:09 (610 views)

Hmmm Maximum Boost by corky bell, published in 1997, always wanted to know what life is like in 2007 - chisilvertip 2003-05-07 12:56:40 (1472 views)

Well, for one thing, there seems to have been great strides made in the physics field. - Not a Benz or a TT 2003-05-07 13:17:42 (668 views)

Awesome, Josh. Thanks. - AUJ 2003-05-07 11:29:11 (603 views)

Josh please don't take this as a personal attack but I am not just quoting a 10 yr old book - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 11:09:30 (817 views)

Cool - I look forward to it man. - Singletrack 2003-05-07 11:02:47 (523 views)

You have a lot of knowledge on this subject man, why not design and sell one yourself? - Joshua (wishbone) 2003-05-07 10:54:52 (618 views)

Makes sense to me - thanks for the diagrams dude. - Singletrack 2003-05-07 10:33:36 (540 views)

#2 would be better if the cold end tank exit was in the middle. probably not s4 comaptible though. - ModifiedA4 2003-05-07 10:32:38 (656 views)

as long as the endtanks are designed properly to promote flow - S4togooo-Chaotic S4 2003-05-07 12:42:23 (523 views)

Well im thinking since the path lengths are different for each turbo... - ModifiedA4 2003-05-07 17:27:45 (597 views)

Granted it was not drawn to scale but - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 10:43:30 (1117 views)

Unless you punch a hole through the radiator I can't see how that would fit an S4. - Andy Hedin 2003-05-07 10:39:39 (1079 views)

Interesting, the other one "appears" to have more Core area then this one. - Milpitas2.7T 2003-05-07 11:04:07 (511 views)

I can see from the pics you could do it, the tank would have a center exit... - ModifiedA4 2003-05-07 10:54:16 (604 views)

Can you compare specs from your FMIC vs. the water cooled AWE duals? - dscottjr 2003-05-07 10:09:07 (709 views)

Blitz -- My car is at AWE and will be for a couple days .... - Markcore 2003-05-07 09:49:10 (717 views)

I can't install it there. I do still have it though. - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 09:53:44 (574 views)

How about when I pick up the car, we go in the parking lot... - Markcore 2003-05-07 09:57:16 (720 views)

wait till my bbq in june, i will be asking blitz to install the intake mani there... - Roughedgez 2003-05-07 10:02:03 (520 views)

Okay, switches first, 6 pack of Sierra Nevada for Blitz second. - Markcore 2003-05-07 10:08:47 (592 views)

i will be drinking vp 103 sir :) - Roughedgez 2003-05-07 10:55:34 (467 views)

drinking? I thought you had the hard line inserted for direct injection! - Milpitas2.7T 2003-05-07 13:26:41 (468 views)

Well the fan install by any means is not a quick switch. - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 09:58:59 (485 views)

But, since the air is passing through SHORTER charge rows it effectively has time to cool down... - Santorin1 2003-05-07 09:46:37 (786 views)

slower, shorter run is better than faster, longer run - nyet|R.I.P.ToyGuy 2003-05-07 11:15:49 (761 views)

Sorry to say but you are WAYYYYY wrong. - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 11:19:58 (543 views)

educate, i know nothing of ICs :) - nyet|R.I.P.ToyGuy 2003-05-07 11:26:17 (544 views)

Incorrect. I will let Mr.Bell explain it - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 09:52:49 (1069 views)

Yes, but in the original picture the two ICs being compared are the same size in surface area.. - Santorin1 2003-05-07 10:10:14 (605 views)

The less your turbos have to work to make X boost @ the intake manifold the lower the AIT - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 10:46:47 (702 views)

bigger isn't always better. - S4togooo-Chaotic S4 2003-05-07 10:28:39 (486 views)

Nah, that's just what she told you. - Not a Benz or a TT 2003-05-07 10:29:32 (567 views)

Aww they're all pickin on your drawing, I spiffied it up for all them, don't you worry. - Markcore 2003-05-07 09:39:50 (1082 views)

lol, MUCH better. Isn't it a little early to be picking up that pipe? ;) - SlowestS4Here 2003-05-07 10:41:27 (495 views)

thanks! now I get it. - Chaka 2003-05-07 09:42:05 (533 views)

You have to much time on your hands. - Ghant TMK 2003-05-07 09:39:17 (597 views)

I am waiting for these DB fixes to run on this backup server 8^( - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 09:43:39 (479 views)

I don't think the general S4 population cares as long as it is making the extra hp claimed. - Chaka 2003-05-07 09:37:47 (587 views)

how's it going mate!... - Le Pratt 2003-05-07 10:21:41 (682 views)

pretty good, I take it that you made it back to TX ok. - Chaka 2003-05-07 10:24:42 (528 views)

Yes mate... - Le Pratt 2003-05-07 10:38:27 (642 views)

Oh.. I think we have a love connection!!!!! That's so sweet! :) heheheheh MOSES!!!! - Milpitas2.7T 2003-05-07 11:14:38 (431 views)

lol, don't be jealous foo! You know I still love you the best:P - Chaka 2003-05-07 11:20:17 (509 views)

Don't be HATIN!!! hehehehehe - Milpitas2.7T 2003-05-07 17:09:20 (550 views)

I see how it is now... - Kent L 2003-05-07 11:35:31 (489 views)

you mean salivates over my car? - Chaka 2003-05-07 11:52:18 (527 views)

Dudes - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 12:01:26 (578 views)

They should care, expensive stuff, sometimes realworld results are more important than #'s! - Audi_80 2003-05-07 09:53:29 (613 views)

They should care. Once again folks need to relize what it is that they truely want. - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 09:42:06 (701 views)

maybe they should, but most don't - Chaka 2003-05-07 09:55:07 (555 views)

Only because there is an even better product on the horizon. - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 09:56:40 (560 views)

I'm not dumb, I'm just st00pid. Thanks. :-) - S4MadMan = TroLL 2003-05-07 09:33:32 (459 views)

what a shtoopid post ;-) - TRM 2003-05-08 00:22:53 (467 views)

ant you comin to the bbq the 14th, me and s4nit will drag race our boats, lol - Roughedgez 2003-05-07 09:30:38 (522 views)

Are you going to post an official invite to people? .. Maybe you already did and I didn't catch it. - Markcore 2003-05-07 09:48:07 (482 views)

you gotta email me with rsvp, i can only have 30 peeps so space is limited - Roughedgez 2003-05-07 10:00:18 (462 views)

YGM - Markcore 2003-05-07 10:42:43 (512 views)

werd - Roughedgez 2003-05-07 11:14:11 (523 views)

He did..... - Andy Hedin 2003-05-07 09:59:18 (636 views)

May or June I forget? - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 09:34:08 (571 views)

june 14th sat, tech day, bbq, boat, jet ski, beer, e46 m3s to pick on, stripers from A.C. :) - Roughedgez 2003-05-07 09:57:53 (584 views)

I think that I will have no problem making that 8^) - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 10:00:05 (507 views)

those both suck, not even mandrel bent piping - Roughedgez 2003-05-07 09:29:25 (769 views)

Hey there are no crush bends there, I used the bendable line thingy in MS Paint! 8^O - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 09:31:44 (619 views)

I'm no engineer, but more short rows comment makes sense to me - MichaelTM 2003-05-07 09:26:03 (461 views)

you need to pursue art professionally - MichaelTM 2003-05-07 09:22:26 (514 views)

Give the man a cigar. Say what you want about Neon's but this man knows his poop. - Zaphod//TMK:Indukted 2003-05-07 09:21:46 (794 views)

Hey squerrel lay off the nuts and corn, it doesn't digest very well. - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 09:36:02 (1051 views)

how long did that take you to draw? :) - Steve Trac 2003-05-07 09:18:10 (577 views)

So the "bad" FMIC in your diagram is whose FMIC? - Andy Hedin 2003-05-07 09:13:50 (801 views)

You get 3 guesses and the other 2 don't count - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 09:17:24 (569 views)

Ok, that's what I thought. - Andy Hedin 2003-05-07 09:19:49 (547 views)

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