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But, since the air is passing through SHORTER charge rows it effectively has time to cool down...

Posted by: Santorin1 on 2003-05-07 09:46:37
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In Reply to: FMIC for dummies 101 posted by BliTzkrieg Bone Stok on 2003-05-07 09:11:43

so, is it safe to say that the charge air gets cooled less even though it passes through quicker and is "more efficient"?

Which is better, more cooling or quicker flow?

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FMIC for dummies 101 - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 09:11:43 (10674 views)

Stock Supra Sidemounts anyone? - Funkdariaa 2003-10-16 09:43:16 (766 views)

How is the charge velocity affected by the 1 larger pipe? - BoostLE 2003-05-08 18:45:10 (864 views)

Well there are 2 factrs here. 4 end tanks 2pipes and an extra merge point vs. - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-09 06:12:05 (772 views)

looking at what other twin-turbo cars's do... - BSOD 2003-05-07 11:22:59 (5368 views)

and as an owner of Z's for many years... - TRM 2003-05-08 00:19:48 (826 views)

Just because they make it doesn't mean it is correct for proper airflow. - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 11:34:50 (826 views)

I know. Didn't mean to infer one or the other was correct/better. Just showing what other folks - BSOD 2003-05-07 11:45:40 (616 views)

How about this information: - Audi_80 2003-05-07 11:45:05 (1092 views)

Ow. My brain hurts. - Avantgarde 2003-05-07 14:57:22 (988 views)

That is one of the best sites on the entire friggen net!! Seriously - Milpitas2.7T 2003-05-07 13:43:21 (703 views)

That's a great site, no doubt! - Audi_80 2003-05-07 19:35:47 (595 views)

woah! - Steve Trac 2003-05-07 11:33:01 (1368 views)

No that 350Z is a large cross between the 2 discussed designs - Milpitas2.7T 2003-05-07 11:31:34 (719 views)

that's what i meant, longer horizontal air flow, but 3 end tanks (two into one) - BSOD 2003-05-07 11:43:33 (599 views)

A full FAQ answering all of these questions will be posted tonight. - Josh@Achtuning.com 2003-05-07 10:59:44 (999 views)

Did this get posted? I STFA and don't see it. - Dan Calle 2003-05-08 12:38:53 (612 views)

It is not finished yet... - Josh@Achtuning.com 2003-05-08 14:22:01 (655 views)

Don't hold your breath. The Erics have been sitting on this for god knows how long. - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-08 12:43:09 (607 views)

Hmmm Maximum Boost by corky bell, published in 1997, always wanted to know what life is like in 2007 - chisilvertip 2003-05-07 12:56:40 (1467 views)

Well, for one thing, there seems to have been great strides made in the physics field. - Not a Benz or a TT 2003-05-07 13:17:42 (664 views)

Awesome, Josh. Thanks. - AUJ 2003-05-07 11:29:11 (600 views)

Josh please don't take this as a personal attack but I am not just quoting a 10 yr old book - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 11:09:30 (814 views)

Cool - I look forward to it man. - Singletrack 2003-05-07 11:02:47 (521 views)

You have a lot of knowledge on this subject man, why not design and sell one yourself? - Joshua (wishbone) 2003-05-07 10:54:52 (614 views)

Makes sense to me - thanks for the diagrams dude. - Singletrack 2003-05-07 10:33:36 (539 views)

#2 would be better if the cold end tank exit was in the middle. probably not s4 comaptible though. - ModifiedA4 2003-05-07 10:32:38 (653 views)

as long as the endtanks are designed properly to promote flow - S4togooo-Chaotic S4 2003-05-07 12:42:23 (523 views)

Well im thinking since the path lengths are different for each turbo... - ModifiedA4 2003-05-07 17:27:45 (594 views)

Granted it was not drawn to scale but - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 10:43:30 (1112 views)

Unless you punch a hole through the radiator I can't see how that would fit an S4. - Andy Hedin 2003-05-07 10:39:39 (1076 views)

Interesting, the other one "appears" to have more Core area then this one. - Milpitas2.7T 2003-05-07 11:04:07 (508 views)

I can see from the pics you could do it, the tank would have a center exit... - ModifiedA4 2003-05-07 10:54:16 (603 views)

Can you compare specs from your FMIC vs. the water cooled AWE duals? - dscottjr 2003-05-07 10:09:07 (707 views)

Blitz -- My car is at AWE and will be for a couple days .... - Markcore 2003-05-07 09:49:10 (715 views)

I can't install it there. I do still have it though. - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 09:53:44 (571 views)

How about when I pick up the car, we go in the parking lot... - Markcore 2003-05-07 09:57:16 (718 views)

wait till my bbq in june, i will be asking blitz to install the intake mani there... - Roughedgez 2003-05-07 10:02:03 (516 views)

Okay, switches first, 6 pack of Sierra Nevada for Blitz second. - Markcore 2003-05-07 10:08:47 (588 views)

i will be drinking vp 103 sir :) - Roughedgez 2003-05-07 10:55:34 (464 views)

drinking? I thought you had the hard line inserted for direct injection! - Milpitas2.7T 2003-05-07 13:26:41 (464 views)

Well the fan install by any means is not a quick switch. - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 09:58:59 (483 views)

But, since the air is passing through SHORTER charge rows it effectively has time to cool down... - Santorin1 2003-05-07 09:46:37 (784 views)

slower, shorter run is better than faster, longer run - nyet|R.I.P.ToyGuy 2003-05-07 11:15:49 (758 views)

Sorry to say but you are WAYYYYY wrong. - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 11:19:58 (541 views)

educate, i know nothing of ICs :) - nyet|R.I.P.ToyGuy 2003-05-07 11:26:17 (541 views)

Incorrect. I will let Mr.Bell explain it - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 09:52:49 (1066 views)

Yes, but in the original picture the two ICs being compared are the same size in surface area.. - Santorin1 2003-05-07 10:10:14 (603 views)

The less your turbos have to work to make X boost @ the intake manifold the lower the AIT - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 10:46:47 (700 views)

bigger isn't always better. - S4togooo-Chaotic S4 2003-05-07 10:28:39 (485 views)

Nah, that's just what she told you. - Not a Benz or a TT 2003-05-07 10:29:32 (564 views)

Aww they're all pickin on your drawing, I spiffied it up for all them, don't you worry. - Markcore 2003-05-07 09:39:50 (1081 views)

lol, MUCH better. Isn't it a little early to be picking up that pipe? ;) - SlowestS4Here 2003-05-07 10:41:27 (493 views)

thanks! now I get it. - Chaka 2003-05-07 09:42:05 (529 views)

You have to much time on your hands. - Ghant TMK 2003-05-07 09:39:17 (593 views)

I am waiting for these DB fixes to run on this backup server 8^( - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 09:43:39 (478 views)

I don't think the general S4 population cares as long as it is making the extra hp claimed. - Chaka 2003-05-07 09:37:47 (587 views)

how's it going mate!... - Le Pratt 2003-05-07 10:21:41 (680 views)

pretty good, I take it that you made it back to TX ok. - Chaka 2003-05-07 10:24:42 (523 views)

Yes mate... - Le Pratt 2003-05-07 10:38:27 (639 views)

Oh.. I think we have a love connection!!!!! That's so sweet! :) heheheheh MOSES!!!! - Milpitas2.7T 2003-05-07 11:14:38 (430 views)

lol, don't be jealous foo! You know I still love you the best:P - Chaka 2003-05-07 11:20:17 (505 views)

Don't be HATIN!!! hehehehehe - Milpitas2.7T 2003-05-07 17:09:20 (548 views)

I see how it is now... - Kent L 2003-05-07 11:35:31 (487 views)

you mean salivates over my car? - Chaka 2003-05-07 11:52:18 (524 views)

Dudes - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 12:01:26 (578 views)

They should care, expensive stuff, sometimes realworld results are more important than #'s! - Audi_80 2003-05-07 09:53:29 (609 views)

They should care. Once again folks need to relize what it is that they truely want. - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 09:42:06 (699 views)

maybe they should, but most don't - Chaka 2003-05-07 09:55:07 (554 views)

Only because there is an even better product on the horizon. - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 09:56:40 (559 views)

I'm not dumb, I'm just st00pid. Thanks. :-) - S4MadMan = TroLL 2003-05-07 09:33:32 (457 views)

what a shtoopid post ;-) - TRM 2003-05-08 00:22:53 (464 views)

ant you comin to the bbq the 14th, me and s4nit will drag race our boats, lol - Roughedgez 2003-05-07 09:30:38 (520 views)

Are you going to post an official invite to people? .. Maybe you already did and I didn't catch it. - Markcore 2003-05-07 09:48:07 (479 views)

you gotta email me with rsvp, i can only have 30 peeps so space is limited - Roughedgez 2003-05-07 10:00:18 (461 views)

YGM - Markcore 2003-05-07 10:42:43 (509 views)

werd - Roughedgez 2003-05-07 11:14:11 (520 views)

He did..... - Andy Hedin 2003-05-07 09:59:18 (632 views)

May or June I forget? - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 09:34:08 (567 views)

june 14th sat, tech day, bbq, boat, jet ski, beer, e46 m3s to pick on, stripers from A.C. :) - Roughedgez 2003-05-07 09:57:53 (579 views)

I think that I will have no problem making that 8^) - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 10:00:05 (505 views)

those both suck, not even mandrel bent piping - Roughedgez 2003-05-07 09:29:25 (766 views)

Hey there are no crush bends there, I used the bendable line thingy in MS Paint! 8^O - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 09:31:44 (617 views)

I'm no engineer, but more short rows comment makes sense to me - MichaelTM 2003-05-07 09:26:03 (460 views)

you need to pursue art professionally - MichaelTM 2003-05-07 09:22:26 (511 views)

Give the man a cigar. Say what you want about Neon's but this man knows his poop. - Zaphod//TMK:Indukted 2003-05-07 09:21:46 (793 views)

Hey squerrel lay off the nuts and corn, it doesn't digest very well. - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 09:36:02 (1047 views)

how long did that take you to draw? :) - Steve Trac 2003-05-07 09:18:10 (574 views)

So the "bad" FMIC in your diagram is whose FMIC? - Andy Hedin 2003-05-07 09:13:50 (801 views)

You get 3 guesses and the other 2 don't count - BliTzkrieg Bone Stok 2003-05-07 09:17:24 (568 views)

Ok, that's what I thought. - Andy Hedin 2003-05-07 09:19:49 (543 views)

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