Broke timing belt (28k miles after replacing at 70k). Ideas for what's next...?
#21
Well, having just come off a similar experience
<a href="https://forums.audiworld.com/s4/msgs/2679970.phtml">I know how you feel</a>. In your case, though, have you tried to have Audi foot at least SOME of this bill? Is there no warranty at all on those parts?
The work is not fun but, if you can do it (or know people that can help you, like I did), you'll save a TON - as that's where most of that cost is going to be.
In the end, for me, it was definitely worth it. For $10k, though, that's a tough call. If you plan on keeping the car for a long time, then maybe. If you were looking to get out of it then probably not.
The work is not fun but, if you can do it (or know people that can help you, like I did), you'll save a TON - as that's where most of that cost is going to be.
In the end, for me, it was definitely worth it. For $10k, though, that's a tough call. If you plan on keeping the car for a long time, then maybe. If you were looking to get out of it then probably not.
#23
$660 is absolutely rediculous for a simple leakdown test.
And it was totally unnecessary. Once you knew that the belt broke at that RPM it was gatanteed that the valves are bent.
The valves will also have hit the pistons. So you must tear the entire engine apart and at least inspect the rods and crank. If the valves have broken then the situation will be even worse. Then the head castings will be bad and the turbos might also have been killed.
I would find and swap in a used engine. If you're not willing to do that then I would sell it as-is. The other option is to build an engine yourself but that really only makes sense if you intend to build a better than stock engine.
Probably the reason the belt broke is that the water pump or something else seized and broke it. I'll bet that these items were not changed at 70K by the dealership. Normal practice now is to change them to prevent this sort of failure.
Stephen
The valves will also have hit the pistons. So you must tear the entire engine apart and at least inspect the rods and crank. If the valves have broken then the situation will be even worse. Then the head castings will be bad and the turbos might also have been killed.
I would find and swap in a used engine. If you're not willing to do that then I would sell it as-is. The other option is to build an engine yourself but that really only makes sense if you intend to build a better than stock engine.
Probably the reason the belt broke is that the water pump or something else seized and broke it. I'll bet that these items were not changed at 70K by the dealership. Normal practice now is to change them to prevent this sort of failure.
Stephen
#25
Anyone have a spare short / long block then?
At the time, I did not know the timing belt broke. I thought it was unlikely because I had it changed so recently. And the water pump, along with a lot of other accessories were changed (at least supposedly). I paid for it and did not cheap-it because I knew a timing belt break could leave me stranded. I don't particularly like having maintenance work done at the dealership because of the costs but this is one of those things where I did get it done there.
Regardless of the problem or what has been done now, I'm looking to get it fixed and running, and get out of it as soon as I can. In all honesty, I had fun with the car but now it's a tedious chore and this has left a real sour taste in my mouth. So I'm just going to suck it up and get it back up and running, and sell it.
Regardless of the problem or what has been done now, I'm looking to get it fixed and running, and get out of it as soon as I can. In all honesty, I had fun with the car but now it's a tedious chore and this has left a real sour taste in my mouth. So I'm just going to suck it up and get it back up and running, and sell it.
#26
Then check first to see how much you can get for it as-is.
People are always looking for project cars. I'll bet that when you take into consideration the current market price on the car when fixed (not a lot these days) plus how much your time is worth and how much people are willing to pay for a car with a blown engine, that you'll find it better to just sell it.
As for the belt breaking ... well **** does happen. Sometimes, even if you do everything right, you end up being the 0.001% that has a failure out of spec. :-(
Stephen
As for the belt breaking ... well **** does happen. Sometimes, even if you do everything right, you end up being the 0.001% that has a failure out of spec. :-(
Stephen
#27
Yep, I just put it up on Craigslist to see if there are any bites...
Sometimes bad things just happen, it's OK. I'll get over it and plenty of good things happen to me all the time so I'll take this as the one bad apple in a long time...
Thanks for the advise.
Thanks for the advise.
#29
Re: Were there any symptoms or weird sounds you experienced before the TB broke?
No, no warning or strange noises. Right when the tb broke, there was a faint popping sound but it didn't sound destructive or anyhong, just a gentle pop sound. I wouldn't be paranoid about it, the consensus here is that this is a rare occurrence.
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