Big or Small balls ?
01-08-2009, 07:20 AM
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Really though, for $10,900 you can join the 900 HP club?
I understand marketing and all, but maybe there should be little asterisk saying *Pricing does not include displacement increase to 3.0L, additional fueling components: custom fuel rails, dual fuel pumps, custom plenum RS4 intake manifold, RS4/2.8 heads, RS4 charge pipes, TBB and several more components.
Unless a 2.7L with rods and same valve springs is making 700+whp with the standard fueling that comes with a kit, I think it's just a tad misleading to say 10,9 and you're out the door with 700+whp. Maybe I'm just nitpicking?
Unless a 2.7L with rods and same valve springs is making 700+whp with the standard fueling that comes with a kit, I think it's just a tad misleading to say 10,9 and you're out the door with 700+whp. Maybe I'm just nitpicking?
01-08-2009, 07:51 AM
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I'm not sure a lot of that stuff you mention is necessary/important...
I am referring specifically to your mention of "custom fuel rails, dual fuel pumps, custom plenum RS4 intake manifold, RS4/2.8 heads, RS4 charge pipes, TBB and several more components.".
01-08-2009, 07:57 AM
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Maybe, maybe not. Can the standard GT fueling kit included support 700+whp? 2.7L?
Because the car that dyno came from had two fuel pumps, (much) larger injectors, custom rails and braided fuel lines.
Supporting modifications like larger cylinder heads, larger throttle body, custom-modified intake manifold -- and by far the most important component, a 3.0L stroker.
If ASP or WMS can post a 700+whp dyno with stock displacement 2.7L with rods (any cylinder head set up will do) with the standard fueling kit included in all the kits then I wouldn't think it's misleading.
But posting up a dyno of a shop car with a full blown 3.0L build with a custom fueling setup and saying for $10,9 you can "join the 900HP club" too, I think that's misleading. Let's see the 2.7L dyno with 2871R's and the fueling kit that comes with the $10,9 before advertising a HP claim as high as that.
Let's just step back for a moment and be real here...
Supporting modifications like larger cylinder heads, larger throttle body, custom-modified intake manifold -- and by far the most important component, a 3.0L stroker.
If ASP or WMS can post a 700+whp dyno with stock displacement 2.7L with rods (any cylinder head set up will do) with the standard fueling kit included in all the kits then I wouldn't think it's misleading.
But posting up a dyno of a shop car with a full blown 3.0L build with a custom fueling setup and saying for $10,9 you can "join the 900HP club" too, I think that's misleading. Let's see the 2.7L dyno with 2871R's and the fueling kit that comes with the $10,9 before advertising a HP claim as high as that.
Let's just step back for a moment and be real here...
01-08-2009, 09:26 AM
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Things went pretty well this week, Tony is finishing up some tuning today and possibly some tomorrow
I'm picking her up tomorrow knock on wood nothing major comes up. I'm holding off on the race gas tune because it's the winter and my South Bend feramic won't hold it (has crappy RS4 PP).
Initial results should be up this weekend and I'll try to get some video
Initial results should be up this weekend and I'll try to get some video
01-08-2009, 01:21 PM
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theyre saying this kit will get you the advertised HP levels
anyone who knows anything about the car will know what supporting mods are necessary.
when you buy a car, people advertise "sign and drive" - leaving out the fine print.
its advertising/marketing .......
when you buy a car, people advertise "sign and drive" - leaving out the fine print.
its advertising/marketing .......