How much oil does your S4 use?
10-17-2013, 02:52 PM
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Anyone with higher mileage (B8 S4 with over 50,000miles)? I didn't have issues until later...
For me after 8000km if you check the MMI there is one or so bars left. Before it asked this time I did an oil change on my own.
For me after 8000km if you check the MMI there is one or so bars left. Before it asked this time I did an oil change on my own.
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10-17-2013, 09:45 PM
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I'll always take the advice over a team of engine designers over a snowmobile mechanic. There's no way he's smarter than the people who designed our engines. Plus if you do follow the "motoman" break in, it focuses only on the piston rings, but break in is about the bearings, and valve seating, and transmission, etc.
10-25-2013, 08:42 AM
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I'll always take the advice over a team of engine designers over a snowmobile mechanic. There's no way he's smarter than the people who designed our engines. Plus if you do follow the "motoman" break in, it focuses only on the piston rings, but break in is about the bearings, and valve seating, and transmission, etc.
10-25-2013, 02:50 PM
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I don't buy the bean counter conspiracy theory at all. I checked with a few friends in the industry and they all agreed that the manufacturer prescribed break in really is the best. Mots false ideas are accepted because of the human desire to resist a vast, usually nonexistent, conspiracy. But aside from that, lets look at this logically.
Audi engineers have decade of experience designing cars. It really is in their best interest that the break in result in the most reliable car, perhaps at the expense of performance. Every other car company, which also has decades of experience, suggests a very similar break in program. Are you saying a snowmobile mechanic is smarter than the combined engineering talent of the entire automobile industry? Not a chance.
The only evidence that a hard break in is beneficial is anecdotal at best from a small sample of enthusiasts on a car forum. You are going to have to show me large samples (at least 1,000 cars, preferably much more) of data of long term reliabiility, oil consumption, and breakin method before I could possibly come to the conclusion that any of us, snowmobile mechanics included, are smarter than the Audi design team.
Audi engineers have decade of experience designing cars. It really is in their best interest that the break in result in the most reliable car, perhaps at the expense of performance. Every other car company, which also has decades of experience, suggests a very similar break in program. Are you saying a snowmobile mechanic is smarter than the combined engineering talent of the entire automobile industry? Not a chance.
The only evidence that a hard break in is beneficial is anecdotal at best from a small sample of enthusiasts on a car forum. You are going to have to show me large samples (at least 1,000 cars, preferably much more) of data of long term reliabiility, oil consumption, and breakin method before I could possibly come to the conclusion that any of us, snowmobile mechanics included, are smarter than the Audi design team.
10-26-2013, 08:27 AM
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I don't buy the bean counter conspiracy theory at all. I checked with a few friends in the industry and they all agreed that the manufacturer prescribed break in really is the best. Mots false ideas are accepted because of the human desire to resist a vast, usually nonexistent, conspiracy. But aside from that, lets look at this logically.
Audi engineers have decade of experience designing cars. It really is in their best interest that the break in result in the most reliable car, perhaps at the expense of performance. Every other car company, which also has decades of experience, suggests a very similar break in program. Are you saying a snowmobile mechanic is smarter than the combined engineering talent of the entire automobile industry? Not a chance.
The only evidence that a hard break in is beneficial is anecdotal at best from a small sample of enthusiasts on a car forum. You are going to have to show me large samples (at least 1,000 cars, preferably much more) of data of long term reliabiility, oil consumption, and breakin method before I could possibly come to the conclusion that any of us, snowmobile mechanics included, are smarter than the Audi design team.
Audi engineers have decade of experience designing cars. It really is in their best interest that the break in result in the most reliable car, perhaps at the expense of performance. Every other car company, which also has decades of experience, suggests a very similar break in program. Are you saying a snowmobile mechanic is smarter than the combined engineering talent of the entire automobile industry? Not a chance.
The only evidence that a hard break in is beneficial is anecdotal at best from a small sample of enthusiasts on a car forum. You are going to have to show me large samples (at least 1,000 cars, preferably much more) of data of long term reliabiility, oil consumption, and breakin method before I could possibly come to the conclusion that any of us, snowmobile mechanics included, are smarter than the Audi design team.
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10-26-2013, 08:46 AM
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