Break in period???
#11
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I used Audi's recommended "soft" break-in with my 2010 S4. This resulted in oil consumption of about 1L/10-12,000 km. Not bad, but a little more than I'd like to see.
With the 2013 Q5 3.0T, I used the modified Motoman, and haven't experienced any noticeable consumption in 5k km (MMI shows oil level at the top). No one who had professed to using this break-in technique has had any (or very little) consumption. I don't think it's necessary to go WOT when you bring the car to redline.
With the 2013 Q5 3.0T, I used the modified Motoman, and haven't experienced any noticeable consumption in 5k km (MMI shows oil level at the top). No one who had professed to using this break-in technique has had any (or very little) consumption. I don't think it's necessary to go WOT when you bring the car to redline.
Last edited by NABS4; 02-01-2013 at 06:46 PM.
#12
Well, apart from higher oil-consumption being beneficial to dealerships (up to a certain extent, obviously), can you imagine a car manual actually telling you to step into a brand-new 333HP car and floor it to red line? They'd need at least two volumes of safety warnings and disclaimers before the lawyers would let it out of the door...
#13
I have never done a hard break in and haven't added oil to any car I have owned in more than 15 years. (4 Audi's and 4 Lexus counting my wife's cars). I drive 80% highway miles and would never be able to do a hard break in unless I had another car to use during the break in. I have no way of knowing how the break in affects oil consumption, but am quite certain there are other factors that lead to oil consumption other than break in style. If you drive in a city for short distances, use crappy oil or filters, or abuse your car on a regular basis, I expect you will use more oil than me regardless of how we broke in our cars.
Unless you are comfortable with your own research that tells you otherwise, my suggestion is to stick with the manual. I honestly don't think it will harm the car. If your own research leads you to believe a hard break in is better, then go for it. I just wouldn't make a decision to do the opposite of what the manual tells you to do based on Forum posts.
Unless you are comfortable with your own research that tells you otherwise, my suggestion is to stick with the manual. I honestly don't think it will harm the car. If your own research leads you to believe a hard break in is better, then go for it. I just wouldn't make a decision to do the opposite of what the manual tells you to do based on Forum posts.
#14
Well, apart from higher oil-consumption being beneficial to dealerships (up to a certain extent, obviously), can you imagine a car manual actually telling you to step into a brand-new 333HP car and floor it to red line? They'd need at least two volumes of safety warnings and disclaimers before the lawyers would let it out of the door...
etc. A lot of owners of this engine (some A6 owners for example) use the car for simply going from point A to point B. They are not car enthusiasts.
Disclaimer: I only used the "A6" owner as an example. A few of my friend's wives drive to A6 3.0 and they have no idea what is under the hood. I know that there are plenty of A6 owners that know what they have .
#15
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I think it's pretty humorous that anyone thinks that "Motoman" or anyone else knows better than Audi about how best to break in an engine.
What benefit would there be to Audi (or any other manufacturer) to recommend anything other than the optimal break-in procedure?
Looking at it another way, if an engine part were to fail prematurely, and the owner HAD NOT followed the manufacturer's recommendations regarding break-in, why would the manufacturer cover the broken part under warranty?
I mean, Audi and VW have very specific requirements for engine oil. If Motoman said that the Audi/VW standard was baloney, and that you should use (fill-in-the-blank with an alternate non-Audi/VW approved oil brand) instead, would you do that? If you did, Audi and VW could rightfully deny any warranty claim because you didn't follow their recommendation....
To the OP: Read the owner's manual when you get the car - it contains instructions for proper break-in....
What benefit would there be to Audi (or any other manufacturer) to recommend anything other than the optimal break-in procedure?
Looking at it another way, if an engine part were to fail prematurely, and the owner HAD NOT followed the manufacturer's recommendations regarding break-in, why would the manufacturer cover the broken part under warranty?
I mean, Audi and VW have very specific requirements for engine oil. If Motoman said that the Audi/VW standard was baloney, and that you should use (fill-in-the-blank with an alternate non-Audi/VW approved oil brand) instead, would you do that? If you did, Audi and VW could rightfully deny any warranty claim because you didn't follow their recommendation....
To the OP: Read the owner's manual when you get the car - it contains instructions for proper break-in....
#16
I originally had the same thoughts. I figured why would Audi recommend something that doesn't work, but after reading countless threads on the topic I went against what I normally would and broke my car in hard. So far I haven't had any issues.
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Its actually a good idea to run your car up to redline every couple drives and bring it down with engine braking especially if you have an FSI engine. It helps to keep your valves cleaner. FSI was designed and primarily used for racing and that's how Audi built there FSI motors for street cars to be run hard.
#18
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No one else has had issues either. That cannot be said about those that did the easy technique. But really, there haven't been a lot of owners with B8 s4 with oil consumption problems, All cars consume oil. IMHO, I qt/5kmiles is acceptable. 1 qt/1200 miles is ludicrous
#19
I have done Euro delivery twice and both times the factory delivery person recommended staying below 4000 RPM for the first 600 miles. 4000 RPM in a V8 S5 6 speed equaled about 100 MPH on the autobahn so no big deal. After that, go for it. I have had NO oil consumption problems on any of my Audi's breaking it in this way- and where do you get your information that Audi runs these engines to redline at the factory? During engine development and testing, yes, but not in the cars running down the line.
#20
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I have done Euro delivery twice and both times the factory delivery person recommended staying below 4000 RPM for the first 600 miles. 4000 RPM in a V8 S5 6 speed equaled about 100 MPH on the autobahn so no big deal. After that, go for it. I have had NO oil consumption problems on any of my Audi's breaking it in this way- and where do you get your information that Audi runs these engines to redline at the factory? During engine development and testing, yes, but not in the cars running down the line.