How you know Pat and Jon had a BAD, BAD day....

Old 05-30-2007, 03:40 PM
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Default How you know Pat and Jon had a BAD, BAD day....

you go to replace all 8 front control arms, a front passenger wheel bearing, and sway bar up links....all you get done are the 4 upper control arms, can't remove the front rotors even with oodles of PB Blaster, and the ball joint spreader get's hosed without even budging the lower control arm joints/bolts. Sorry De....we owe you one. We, or I should say I, also managed to disconnect the half shaft from the hub from within the CV boot. That was a pain to fix, and talk about messy!!!

Today goes down as the WORST GARAGE DAY EVER!!! I feel like we got nothing done, just that we broke ****. At least he was able to drive the car home.

Pics are a "how to" bend a massive joint spreader bolt without moving the ball joint one bit.

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Old 05-30-2007, 03:54 PM
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Default tip for the rotors...

big F'in hammer to the hub face of the rotor several times --I have never failed to pop off even the most severely rusted rotor with this technique. And surprisingly never caused any collateral damage such as bearing damge as I previously feared.

As for the LCA ball joint, if you are replacing, a fork type puller never fails to remove the joint (and destroy the boot). Also, a similar technique of hammering the upright where the joint inserts can break the joint loos without any puller.
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Default tried the BFM...we were not replacing the rotors, so we did not want to damage them

we sprayed them down with PB Blaster, they sat for a total of 4 hours with repeated "beatings"....no results. I have done so many sets of brakes over the years, some stuck, and tried your method....believe me, these were NOT going anywhere.

I was not willing to cause damage to the boots...as if we were not able to get them out, then he would have even more damaged LCAs.

I have been working on Pat's car for 5 years now, have beat the crap out of it getting parts off, timing belts, countless brake jobs, multiple suspension changes, replacement of A arms, control arms, stripped bolts, re-tapped bolts, we have done it all, beat that car into submission.....but today, it got the better of us both.

Pat can attest to the difficulties we have had in the past, but not once did we ever give up, nor have I seen rotors so stuck on despite all the tricks. I bet I have done close to 40 sets of brakes on the B5 platform over the years, Audi and VW...never once saw them so fused on.
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Default weird man. i am not sure what would cause that.

only thing i can think of is that Pat has so many track heat cycles on those rotors than maybe those heat cycles seized them onto the hub.

I had a similar issue on a tracked subaru. I ruined the rotor with a torch, but was able to get it off by heating it up an pounding the f*&amp;k out of it.

I have no idea about the ball joint though. I promise my project next week will be less eventful. :-)
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Default Next week has to go better, can't get much worse.

are we just doing springs, or springs and shocks? I did Van's springs on his B6 avant a LONG time ago, and the suspension on a B5.5 1.8T 4motion, which was similar, but honestly, can't remember the tricks. I know you have been there a ton, so at least there will be someone that "knows" what they are doing
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Yuck. That sucks. Sorry guys!
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bummer. that looks painful.
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it's be easy. i am thinking 2.5-3hrs and we should be good.
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nice, after 7 hours of battling today, I don't think I could handle another long day like that.
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Dangit!

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