Q5 dipstick?
#31
how is the top marker affixed? Can it be pried off and re crimped to the full position? Otherwise maybe make a very small cut in the cable-like dipstick with a hacksaw? Glob JB weld at the top mark after cleaning any oil off it?
#32
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Thanks for the suggestions. I’ve emailed the company asking if there’s a way to shorten the cable. I don’t want to send it back as shipping and duties will quickly exceed the product value.
#33
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The B8.5 Q5 Gen2 flex engine is 507mm to full, 534mm to min
The B9.0 Q5 Gen3 engine is 490mm to full, 506mm to min
The B9.5 Q5 Gen4 engine is 490mm to full, 508mm to min
If that stick is ~510mm from top (ie, where it sits at the top of the dipstick tube) to the full mark, it's much too long. Looks like it would be more for the B8.5 engine. I'll have to email them and demand they provide facts of their branded product. Calling them last time was a waste.
I think I'd just use a paint pen to make marks.
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#35
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There are no Audi produced dipsticks for the longitudinal Audis starting around 2008, when the advanced maintenance concept was introduced with the type 8K (B8 A4). Except the Q7 which stuck to sticks for the duration of the Mk1 (type 4L). The Mk2 dropped the sticks, as expected. You can look to A3 versions of the same engines and see what sticks they have to try. That's why we know of 06J 115 611 E (now L) for the B8.0 CAEB engine; it fits just right though it's technically for the CCTA/CBFA transverse 2.0T. I made a diagram a lot time back of the marking positions relative to that stick. The positions are not based on sticks, but on the T40178 values and someone who had one providing the measurement between the two scales on it. Audi does publish the T40178 values for all the engines for which they do not make sticks.
That's B8.0 Gen2 in red, B8.5 Gen2 flex fuel in orange, B9.0 Gen3 in green, B9.5 Gen4 in blue.
The T40178 is not a dipstick, it's a oil level display calibration tool. You set it to the adjusting ring setting for that engine, then the full and min (min is always 0) marks per the values should match to the top and bottom of the display bar, with the engine oil up to temp and some time for the oil to drain back down (ie, pretty much like you were going to do the extraction). Then there's a basic setting, iirc, in 17-instruments to say "yeah, the oil is measured at full where it belongs, if the display is not matching the measured. My display is 15 years old, and it's still spot on. I've never pulled out the dipstick out of need. But that's not to say others might come into a situation where "is there actually oil in there", or "that display really seems wrong". Where a stick, be it a stick or a T40178 (which you can't leave in the engine), would help.
That's B8.0 Gen2 in red, B8.5 Gen2 flex fuel in orange, B9.0 Gen3 in green, B9.5 Gen4 in blue.
The T40178 is not a dipstick, it's a oil level display calibration tool. You set it to the adjusting ring setting for that engine, then the full and min (min is always 0) marks per the values should match to the top and bottom of the display bar, with the engine oil up to temp and some time for the oil to drain back down (ie, pretty much like you were going to do the extraction). Then there's a basic setting, iirc, in 17-instruments to say "yeah, the oil is measured at full where it belongs, if the display is not matching the measured. My display is 15 years old, and it's still spot on. I've never pulled out the dipstick out of need. But that's not to say others might come into a situation where "is there actually oil in there", or "that display really seems wrong". Where a stick, be it a stick or a T40178 (which you can't leave in the engine), would help.
Last edited by SMac770; 04-16-2024 at 08:37 AM.
#36
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06H is the EA888 Gen1/Gen2 longitudinal
06J is the EA888 Gen1/Gen2 transverse, thus the stick for the Mk2 A4 CCTA engine is 06J...
06K is the EA888 Gen3 transverse, so if you wanted to experiment with Gen3 sticks, they'll be 06K 115 611 x, where x is the question.
06L is the EA888 Gen3 longitudinal, so you won't find any 06L sticks
06M is the EA839 V6 engines
06N is the EA888 Gen4 longitudinal, so no 06N sticks
06Q is the EA888 Gen4 transverse, but since it's nearly the same as Gen3, it appears they just use 06K sticks (06K 115 611 B, now AB, for the Mk4 A3 Gen3 and Gen4 engines).
What are the measurements of the 06K 115 611 AB? That's a good question. If only I worked in a dealership parts department, or it wasn't an hour away.
06J is the EA888 Gen1/Gen2 transverse, thus the stick for the Mk2 A4 CCTA engine is 06J...
06K is the EA888 Gen3 transverse, so if you wanted to experiment with Gen3 sticks, they'll be 06K 115 611 x, where x is the question.
06L is the EA888 Gen3 longitudinal, so you won't find any 06L sticks
06M is the EA839 V6 engines
06N is the EA888 Gen4 longitudinal, so no 06N sticks
06Q is the EA888 Gen4 transverse, but since it's nearly the same as Gen3, it appears they just use 06K sticks (06K 115 611 B, now AB, for the Mk4 A3 Gen3 and Gen4 engines).
What are the measurements of the 06K 115 611 AB? That's a good question. If only I worked in a dealership parts department, or it wasn't an hour away.
#37
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Volkswagen still uses dip stick 06K 115 611 AB for their EA888 Gen 3 and 4 engines across all models. Was 06K 115 611 B but superseded in June 2023 to AB.
Like SMac770 has posted, may be a good starting point for as close you could get to OEM.
Like SMac770 has posted, may be a good starting point for as close you could get to OEM.
#38
My wife's 2022 Q5 showed as having too much oil on the MMI when I was checking the oil after the dealer did an oil change. Unfortunately, it was a couple of months after the oil change. My bad for thinking a dealership could manage an oil change in an Audi. According to @SMac770 we should have the "261-hp mild-hybrid 2.0-liter turbo 45 TFSI" which gels with what I can find online. The dealership has since adjusted the engine oil as it shows about mid-range on the MMI now.
I've got two paths I can follow, one is to get a dipstick from ECSTuning or a similar company and work around some level of imprecision but using the MMI to calibrate the scale. I might do that later, but for now, I've ordered a T40178 knockoff from Amazon. I'd like to find a chart that has accurate numbers for setting the dipstick. I've seen several charts that have a setting of 39 for the adjusting ring with 0 then being min and 24 being max. This was for 2.0 TFSI engines but no year was given, I'm a little OCD about oil level, at least the initial setting, and would like to know if anyone can point me to the definite chart for setting up that stick. At least Audi does give us a dipstick tube, on my X3 there's nothing. On the BMW side, we also don't have a "Drain Oil" warning message in the iDrive system, and dealerships are known to be heavy-handed on their fills.
I've got two paths I can follow, one is to get a dipstick from ECSTuning or a similar company and work around some level of imprecision but using the MMI to calibrate the scale. I might do that later, but for now, I've ordered a T40178 knockoff from Amazon. I'd like to find a chart that has accurate numbers for setting the dipstick. I've seen several charts that have a setting of 39 for the adjusting ring with 0 then being min and 24 being max. This was for 2.0 TFSI engines but no year was given, I'm a little OCD about oil level, at least the initial setting, and would like to know if anyone can point me to the definite chart for setting up that stick. At least Audi does give us a dipstick tube, on my X3 there's nothing. On the BMW side, we also don't have a "Drain Oil" warning message in the iDrive system, and dealerships are known to be heavy-handed on their fills.
#39
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The T40178 values are in one of the workshop manuals, "Oil Gauge Tester T40178 Service Values". For the B9.5 Gen4 DPVA engine, the adjustment ring value (upper scale) is 58. Then the range on the lower scale is 18 for full and 0 for min. The settings you're quoting are for the B8.0 Gen2 CAEB engine.
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#40
The T40178 values are in one of the workshop manuals, "Oil Gauge Tester T40178 Service Values". For the B9.5 Gen4 DPVA engine, the adjustment ring value (upper scale) is 58. Then the range on the lower scale is 18 for full and 0 for min. The settings you're quoting are for the B8.0 Gen2 CAEB engine.