Q5/SQ5 MKI (8R) Discussion Discussion forum for the First Generation Audi Q5 SUV produced from 2008 to 2017

Rattling sound on start up

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-10-2019, 09:57 PM
  #1  
AudiWorld Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
m1964's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 743
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 10 Posts
Default Rattling sound on start up

Our 2010 Q5 started making a rattling sound on start up; the sound goes away in 20-30 seconds and sounds like it is coming form outside the drivetrain.
Any ideas?

thanx
Old 02-12-2019, 11:33 AM
  #2  
AudiWorld Super User
 
Redd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: 2014 Q5
Posts: 3,868
Likes: 0
Received 46 Likes on 39 Posts
Default

It can be a loose piece of sheet metal, like an exhaust heat guard, that rattles around until it gets hot and expands. Typically to troubleshoot that, a shop would remove all the road pans, put the car on a lift overnight, and then have someone look and listen underneath when started cold in the morning. Unless someone is familiar with the specific model and what parts can make whatever kind of rattle it is...might help if you have someone standing outside to record the noise, so you can share that with folks who might recognize it.

if it sounded like loose silverware in a dishwasher, that would be something else entirely, like engine internals coming apart. FWIW.
Old 03-31-2020, 11:17 AM
  #3  
AudiWorld Newcomer
 
John Kean's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 2
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I have a 2010 Q5 3.2 and I was noticing a rattle for about 2-5 seconds on cold startup and was fearing the timing chain guides were worn but the problem mysteriously disappeared so I am hoping it was something less serious.
Old 03-31-2020, 11:47 AM
  #4  
AudiWorld Senior Member
 
S4'ed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 759
Received 176 Likes on 152 Posts
Default

Timing chain slap against the lower timing cover?.....have you ever changed the lower tensioner and replaced the chain?
A 2010 would have been built with the old troublesome tensioner, and the least durable chain.
How many miles on this engine?
How often have oil and filter changes been done? Changing the oil every 10,000 miles accelerates chain wear ("stretch").
If the chain or tensioner are the issue, you are risking catastrophic engine failure (repair = $5K to $7K) if you continue driving this car.

Last edited by S4'ed; 03-31-2020 at 11:53 AM.
Old 03-31-2020, 12:37 PM
  #5  
AudiWorld Newcomer
 
John Kean's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 2
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by S4'ed
Timing chain slap against the lower timing cover?.....have you ever changed the lower tensioner and replaced the chain?
A 2010 would have been built with the old troublesome tensioner, and the least durable chain.
How many miles on this engine?
How often have oil and filter changes been done? Changing the oil every 10,000 miles accelerates chain wear ("stretch").
If the chain or tensioner are the issue, you are risking catastrophic engine failure (repair = $5K to $7K) if you continue driving this car.
I have had the car less than 6 months. Carfax shows oil changed every 10k which is not often enough I have recently found. It had 79k when I got it so I changed the old twice since I bought it and has 85k now.
Old 03-31-2020, 05:20 PM
  #6  
AudiWorld Member
 
gronk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Falls Church
Posts: 181
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by S4'ed
Timing chain slap against the lower timing cover?.....have you ever changed the lower tensioner and replaced the chain?
A 2010 would have been built with the old troublesome tensioner, and the least durable chain.
How many miles on this engine?
How often have oil and filter changes been done? Changing the oil every 10,000 miles accelerates chain wear ("stretch").
If the chain or tensioner are the issue, you are risking catastrophic engine failure (repair = $5K to $7K) if you continue driving this car.
2010 models only came with the 3.2 V6, so are not affected by the chain/tensioner issue that plagues the 2.0L turbos.
Old 04-01-2020, 07:25 AM
  #7  
AudiWorld Junior Member
 
genesysguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Florida
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

My 2015 SQ5 rattles on most startups.. I was concerned and took it into the dealer and specifically asked about a loose timing chain.. They said it was fine.
Not sure how much digging they actually did, but said that these models had no issues with timing chains.. I hope they are correct.
Old 04-01-2020, 09:31 AM
  #8  
AudiWorld Senior Member
 
S4'ed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 759
Received 176 Likes on 152 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by genesysguy
My 2015 SQ5 rattles on most startups.. I was concerned and took it into the dealer and specifically asked about a loose timing chain.. They said it was fine.
Not sure how much digging they actually did, but said that these models had no issues with timing chains.. I hope they are correct.
As is often the case, the people at the Service Dept often don't have a clue.....
There is an Audi TSB for 3.0T rattling timing chains during start-up. The upper tensioner was redesigned to eliminate this problem. Audi claims there is no engine damage due to the rattle. Some people have had Audi replace the tensioner for free, under this TSB. Replacement is a labor intensive (expensive) job.
The TSB # is "15 16 28 2039995/2"
Engines built after 2015 have the improved tensioner.
Old 04-01-2020, 09:42 AM
  #9  
AudiWorld Junior Member
 
genesysguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Florida
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Ah! Thanks for the info. I wish it was a recall so they would fix it, but perhaps with a TSB and a couple of coughs in their direction will motivate them to fix it.
Old 04-01-2020, 02:18 PM
  #10  
AudiWorld Member
 
jimdolian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Near Lake Tahoe
Posts: 145
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

I have a similar problem with my 2007 Porsche Carrera S. On a cold start-up, I get the rattle for about 15 seconds, then it disappears. No rattle on hot start-up. Finally concluded it is a loose baffle in either the muffler or catalytic converter.


Quick Reply: Rattling sound on start up



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:07 PM.