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Old 11-05-2008, 09:50 PM
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Default Like them NASCAR boys say: "loose = fast" !!

You have an almost perfect chassis to work with, I envy you!
I'm sure there's lots of room for adj. in that car.
If you're ready for it, you can start to experiment with different suspension settings to dial out the understeer.
A low HP car (like mine but I'm F.W.D.), a neutral to loose setup is the fastest for the track.
You can experiement with dialing out the understeer with the following (mildest to wildest):
front toe, stock is usualy toed in, try a small amount of toe out: 1/16", this will help turn in.
Front camber, try at least -2 to -2.5°
Bigger Rear bar, will increase tendency to oversteer, or increase rear spring rate.
As a rule, stiffen the rear, soften the front for more oversteer...
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Default use it all the time coming into the left hander at LRP

throttle lift will induce oversteer.

the hard part is doing it correctly


steering with your feet is an art that is learned by practice (read: lots of seat time).

Works well on my Pig Avant that loves to understeer when pushed hard (hopefully will resolve next season with new suspension (fingers crossed)
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Default I try a bit of both

seems to work (just need to be more consistent).

nothing a few tousand more laps won't solve
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Default In most cases, by the time I apex, I'm at 100% throttle anyway, so there's not much ...

... opportunity to work the rear tires other than by lifting.
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Default I get it on the lift and do it all the time. It's the opposite use that baffles me...

... probably b/c I don't have enough HP to really use it.
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Default Neither do I

But I'll try anything to keep up in my run group...
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Default I think Conrad calls that technique "tard"

or is that when you add steering input (as opposed to opposite lock) to catch a slide? I can never remember his goofy drift terms that he applies to racing.
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Default try adjusting your suspension to get the car more neutral and>>>

responsive to throttle adjustments. Take notes and only small changes at a time.
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Default I think tard is adding steering input to understeer, which may eventually turn into collossal

oversteer when the fronts finally do bite. Not sure though
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Default I'm not intimately familiar with the 944, but with the sort of weight distrobution you've got I'm

sure that your car could be set up neutrally and be steered more on the throttle than you're used to. You're obviously not going to be doing big power slides with smoke pouring off the rear tires through 4th gear corners with 150 horsepower, but with the right set up you'd be surprised at how much different your car could drive.


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