TwentyValveB5+S4

riiiiiiiiiiiight. If 70% of internet forums are vB, don't you think that *maybe* we've all seen them? I don't think there's anyone on AW who hasn't been over to AZ and vice-versa. Don't kid yourself.

TwentyValveB5+S4

I guarantee that the time and engineering effort invested into making vB look like KAWF could have been better spent adding such "features" to KAWF.

The bottom line is that IB cared more about making the lives of its forum admins easier (although I'm sure that's failed miserably) than appeasing the members of the forum themselves.

TwentyValveB5+S4

example PM: "hey I saw that you have XYZ part on your car what do you think about it?"

wouldn't that be information that is better shared with everyone?

RickM

Obviously it's more than a "single click" to see all threads in a forum if the number of threads exceeds the display limit for a given page. Are you deliberately misstating the facts or did this simply not occur to you?

The forums you visit must be very inactive if you can see all replies in a thread without clicking to another page. In fact, just the opposite of what you're saying is true. The vB "linear mode" format is exceedingly wasteful of screen space, with the result that threads with many posts can consume many pages, requiring click after click after click.

Where most responses are a single sentence, which is very often the case, Kawf's threaded topline viewing -- on the forum page itself, not within each thread as recently implemented as an option here -- wins here by a mile. For example, the classic "GIAC vs. APR" thread consumes 60 pages on vB in linear mode, using default display settings. Using topline threaded viewing in kawf, it consumed less than one page. Is any of this sinking in?

"Ability" is not synonymous with "useful functionality" and is in the eye of the beholder, i.e., a matter of opinion. I have no particular use for PMing.

You're saying that on a given forum (which other than Off-Topic is already subject-specific) you don't want to see or know about threads concerning topics that you have not pre-selected? I have zero interest in wearing blinders that way, and I suspect I am not alone in that.

Can vBulletin do topline threaded views on the forum's main page, which is a basic feature of kawf? If it can, why doesn't it do that here? If it can't, do you concede that your statement is false?

This is a joke, right? You're saying that a user is "lazy or inconsiderate" for complaining about plainly inferior functionality that consumes more time, effort, clicks and scrolling? LOL. And this, after you just got done trying to praise what you believe is the superior "single click" efficiency of vB? LOL. One thing is clear: you have a high tolerance for embarrassing yourself with your own BS.

No, you can't. Kawf is faster, which is just one of the reasons why it's better. IMHO of course. YMMV.

JStrauss

Uh... no.

My point of reference was the claim that someone with a high post count equates to something better than someone with a low post count, ignoring the actual "join date." Whether I like one format over another was irrelevant. I go to forums for the people, not the format.

HAudidoody (Jrsyboy)

If you go to forums for the people, why do you only have 148 posts in 7 years?

JStrauss

Not in every case, no.

What if you wanted to plan something with a friend? You know, like meeting up for a beer? The whole forum doesn't need to see stuff like that (which is just one example). A PM feature is useful to have, even though 100% of the users may not take advantage of it.

orignal teile

exactly. its like if microsoft bought a web site that was running linux and switched it to windows server 2008. went from a free software (kawf) to one they license (vB). other than that, switching to vB is a completely terrible idea. who really wants three major audi forums that run vB?

JStrauss

Are you seriously going to judge me based on my post count?
Why do you only have 7400 posts in 8 years? There are others with 4 times that number.
See how little sense that makes?

I didn't post a lot, but I did read. I usually found the information that I needed.
There are other forums that I visit, too. AW isn't/wasn't the center of the internet universe.
Are you satisfied with that answer or are you going to continue the pointless task of picking apart my forum stats?

Tekk

I think what they are referring to is the fact that Linear users may be responding to someone specific in a thread but if they do not "quote" that person then the Threaded viewers wont necessarily know who that person is responding to. OTOH, Linear viewers will most likely see "random" looking responses and they might have to discern what post the response is specifically to.