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Old 12-30-2023, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by RMSko
That’s a really great price. A family member is looking to purchase instead of lease (there’s a good reason for it) and the best offer he’s gotten so far is $5,500 off of a MSRP of $87,420. Obviously leasing is very different and he won’t get the $7,500 tax credit, but I’m just wondering how much better do all you guys think he can do (he’s gone to a couple of dealerships)?
He should lease to get the maximum cap cost reduction, with all of the incentives, then buy out the lease after a couple of months; or at least look into doing so.
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He should lease to get the maximum cap cost reduction, with all of the incentives, then buy out the lease after a couple of months; or at least look into doing so.
The incentives are spread over the lease term and so you don’t get the benefit of those if you buy it out early. And when you price in all the buyout fees that makes it a lot more expensive than just buying it at the outset.
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Originally Posted by RMSko
The incentives are spread over the lease term and so you don’t get the benefit of those if you buy it out early. And when you price in all the buyout fees that makes it a lot more expensive than just buying it at the outset.
Good points. I realize that some people prefer to purchase rather than lease but in the case of EVs like this, you are better off leasing. In addition to the lease incentives, the residual values set for leases are higher than what these cars command after 3 yrs. I would lease one for 3 years and if I’m in love with it, try to find a CPO used one.
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Originally Posted by Bada Bing
Good points. I realize that some people prefer to purchase rather than lease but in the case of EVs like this, you are better off leasing. In addition to the lease incentives, the residual values set for leases are higher than what these cars command after 3 yrs. I would lease one for 3 years and if I’m in love with it, try to find a CPO used one.
Thx. It’s a tough call because for him he’ll only drive about 2000 miles per year and so he thinks overall he’s better off buying. He may not be right but what he really wants to know is whether $5500 off list is a decent purchase deal.
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Don't you still get the $7500 Fed discount if you lease, and only if you lease?
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Don't you still get the $7500 Fed discount if you lease, and only if you lease?
Yes but you need to keep the lease for the full term, which means you also pay financing costs for the lease term.
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I don't know where you get that from. The $7500 lease cash is taken off at point of sale (and taxed in states like CA). You are free to buy out afterwards and not pay the future rent charge, but I wouldn't want to own one of these since technology is rapidly changing and will drop like a rock at the end of the lease. Why take that hit when AFS can take that hit.
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I don't know where you get that from. The $7500 lease cash is taken off at point of sale (and taxed in states like CA). You are free to buy out afterwards and not pay the future rent charge, but I wouldn't want to own one of these since technology is rapidly changing and will drop like a rock at the end of the lease. Why take that hit when AFS can take that hit.
Yes, but even though it’s taken off of the purchase price at point of sale, it’s then credited to the lessee by reducing the monthly lease payment amount and not out of the residual and so if you buy out the car after a few months you in essence lose that benefit and end up worse than if you had initially purchased the car.
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Originally Posted by RMSko
Yes, but even though it’s taken off of the purchase price at point of sale, it’s then credited to the lessee by reducing the monthly lease payment amount and not out of the residual and so if you buy out the car after a few months you in essence lose that benefit and end up worse than if you had initially purchased the car.
...and that is worse than having to finance the entire $7500 is you finance a purchase? Might make sense with an all cash purchase. I kind of like having my monthly lease payments being brought down to more manageable levels.
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Originally Posted by JNealCox
...and that is worse than having to finance the entire $7500 is you finance a purchase? Might make sense with an all cash purchase. I kind of like having my monthly lease payments being brought down to more manageable levels.
Yea - forgot to mention that this would be an all cash purchase
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