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Old 01-07-2022, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by A4 Phil
True. And I forgot that the Compact Charging System limited to 40 amp if that is the case. So maybe the compact charging system has an 8.8 kW limit. I'll throw mine on my circuit and see what it says.
You are forgetting charging losses.
The E-tron shows 8.8kw charge rate but my Juicebox EVSE shows 9.5kw power draw.

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Old 01-07-2022, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by A4 Phil
Hey ​​​​@R3Wood I was re reading a few old threads and saw this again (it is a snow day) and it made me think. You are pulling 8.8kW? What is the input to the EVSE (your Audi compact charging system)? 240V or 208V? I am just trying to figure out why yo are missing 1.1 kW, potentially, of charging power (not a big deal...but you probably paid money to have the outlet installed.) Do you know the details of the circuit you had installed? The amperage? If it was 240V and you had a 50 amp circuit installed your battery should be charging at 9.9 kW.

In my head, I am thinking that in order to be at 8.8 kW as stated in your post, you must be using either a 240V at 40 amps or maybe a 208V and 50 amps or even higher. If you are using 208V you are probably using three phase power which means that there are other options to increase your charging power back to 9.9 kW.

Anyway, it is snowing, why not talk about charging minutia this am?

My final throw away for any new etron owner looking at installing a new outlet for their EVSE, if you can, install a 50 amp circuit, but yes, a 40 amp circuit will work just fine. 50 amp just future proofs it a bit as you are already spending the money.
By most codes a 240V/50A circuit MUST be used with a 40A charger. EV chargers are considered "continuous use devices". For that type of device, the house circuit should be 120% of the amperage for which the device is rated to perform. 1.20 x 40 = 48 (app 50A!)
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Originally Posted by JNealCox
By most codes a 240V/50A circuit MUST be used with a 40A charger. EV chargers are considered "continuous use devices". For that type of device, the house circuit should be 120% of the amperage for which the device is rated to perform. 1.20 x 40 = 48 (app 50A!)
You are correct. I was forgetting two things that account for the loss. The Compact Charger limits at 40 amps and a 50 amp circuit is limited to 40 amps.
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Originally Posted by mtberman
Mine charges at 7.6 kW consistently. I use the Audi-supplied unit primarily and have a 40A Mustart for backup. The speed rarely varies either way for more than a moment, although in rare cases it will sustain 7.7 for a while.

I've always assumed it all comes down to the wiring, and mine has a long run.
You may have 208 V as that combined with 40 A sounds about right. I have the transformer sitting in my front yard so my voltage tends to be high at around 250V which gives me 8.9 to 9.1 kW reported by the car.
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Originally Posted by A4 Phil
Hey ​​​​@R3Wood I was re reading a few old threads and saw this again (it is a snow day) and it made me think. You are pulling 8.8kW? What is the input to the EVSE (your Audi compact charging system)? 240V or 208V? I am just trying to figure out why yo are missing 1.1 kW, potentially, of charging power (not a big deal...but you probably paid money to have the outlet installed.) Do you know the details of the circuit you had installed? The amperage? If it was 240V and you had a 50 amp circuit installed your battery should be charging at 9.9 kW.

In my head, I am thinking that in order to be at 8.8 kW as stated in your post, you must be using either a 240V at 40 amps or maybe a 208V and 50 amps or even higher. If you are using 208V you are probably using three phase power which means that there are other options to increase your charging power back to 9.9 kW.

Anyway, it is snowing, why not talk about charging minutia this am?

My final throw away for any new etron owner looking at installing a new outlet for their EVSE, if you can, install a 50 amp circuit, but yes, a 40 amp circuit will work just fine. 50 amp just future proofs it a bit as you are already spending the money.
Hey Phil I just saw this. I installed myself, 50amp 240. On 100 it still only registers 8.8 at the highest?

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Old 01-21-2023, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by R3Wood
Hey Phil I just saw this. I installed myself, 50amp 240. On 100 it still only registers 8.8 at the highest?

Rich
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