finiki

I recently put a set on my other car........a 2007 Accord. If they made an 18" to fit my Hartmann's I would be on it like my Yellow Lab' on a Swedish meatball.
http://www.nokiantires.com/tyre?id=9...=Nokian+eNTYRE

PaperToast

i saw those a while back.
any feedback?
always looking for my next set of rubber to put on the ar

OldMBGuy

Love my Nokian's, but this new enTyre seems like a "regular" all-season tire though. Note that Nokian doesn't include it in it's winter tire selection.

Also note that Nokian is Finnish, not Swedish.

05allroad

^^ The WRG2 is Nokian's all season snow tire, and exhibits NONE of the symptoms you've mentioned that are typical of a snow tire. Outstanding wet/dry/snow/ice grip and performance.

That said, it's not surprising that you're enjoying the Nokian's more than the Michelins. The ride on the Michelins must have been rough (and somewhat unsafe) as the load raiting on them is quite a bit lower than the recommended load rating for our heavy cars. I believe the WRG2's I'm running have a load rating of 101 and they are phenomenal. Minimum recommended for the allroad is 96 or 97, IIRC.

OldMBGuy

I just put a set of WRG2s on my old 1998 E320 4matic. They are definitely noisier than the stock Continental Conti-Sports I had on there, but are noticeably less squirmy and significantly better in the corners. And they are much better on the road than my previous Haka R winter tires (which weren't themselves Blizzak terrible).

I saw the enTyre in the shop and noticed that they didn't have the Nokian siping, so I'd question their true winter capability, but I take your point on Nokian overall as a brand and their orientation. Do remember though that in much of snowbound Europe (including Finland too I believe), you actually have to have tires with the winter hazard sign during the winter months or you get fined, so if Nokian had meant them for winter use at all, they'd probably have the winter rating like the WRG2.

PaperToast

i know what you mean.
im interested to hear your feedback on these in the snow and beyond
like you, im looking for a really good tire for year round use that wont break the bank
also how much coin are these? you can pm that if you like

OldMBGuy

Apparently not all of us read well enough to be able to parse Nokian's marketing department. But I think we're all saying the same thing, which is that we don't expect to the enTyre to have any real snow/ice performance.

Maybe where the confusion lies is in the phrase "...when compared to other premium All-Season tires" and the part they left out "which have no snow/ice grip at all." Thus the use of that vague phrase "winter grip," and the claim that they were "designed specifically for North America" with its presumed conclusion "where there are no winter tire ratings regulations."

Just a matter of flavors really, but in the end no siping = poor winter performance, no matter what the marketers say. Of course that won't matter much if you don't have many days of snow or ice and are just looking for a slightly softer compound for colder days.

Still it would be cool to her your feedback this winter. Thanks in advance!

OldMBGuy

...and I don't think that I ever gotten less than 45k miles on the WRs or WRG2s on an allroad, various MB sedans, and even an R-class.