ahorvath

This is extremely scary I just watched the final youtube video about the RS5 that needed a new engine at 47k and what they found will affect a lot of Audi and Porsche owners. I am an owner of a 2018 S5 and 2019 SQ5 which both have engines with old-style rocker arms according to the manufacturing dates. I am not sure at this point if I should sell both cars or have the updated rocker arms installed before my engines blow up the same way. What would you guys do? I have 50K on my S5 and 27k on the SQ5

NoMoreBMWs

My 2018 S5 Sportback is gone after 80,000 mechanically flawless kilometers. I guess maybe I should dump the new 2022 before I wake up?

MN_Pugsley

What were the manufacturing dates that should be of concern?

JohnEnglish

It's the usual click bait panic inducing YouTube video title as usual. Is there an issue with the rocker arms? Yes. Will you engine blow up? There's an extremely small chance it will. There are literally thousands of people on various message board, discord chats, facebook groups, etc. with the old style rocker arms. A few of them have reported some rattles but that's it. A lot of these people are making a ton of power too with tunes, upgraded turbos, etc.

ahorvath

Clickbait panic or not this could cause severe damage to the engine and you know that Audi will not repair this under any kind of warranty. In the video, they are showing the rocker arm before and after the update and you can tell that Audi replaced the pins inside the rocker arm. If there is no problem why did they do that? I guess we will see how it holds up in the future. I was just asking for some opinions so I can sleep better knowing what you guys think about this.

In the video, the tech said any engine produced before July 2019 has the old rocker arms.

TONY_82

Go check out corvette forum. Brand new C8's are having lifters collapse at 3,000 miles. It's the same engine they've been using in the Silverado's and its been a problem for a long time now. CVT transmissions have been around for a while and they aren't reliable at all. They are still being produced. It all just comes down to money. Choose wisely, take care of your car best you can, and hope for the best. Otherwise just trade in your car before powertrain runs out. It's not just Audi. That is just my opinion.

JohnEnglish

Like I said, it is a problem. However, the title makes it seem like every car with the old rocker arm is about to explode. It's definitely something to keep in mind and monitor. Considering the guy in the video says it's an engine out job to replace the rocker arms, it seems like the best course of action is to just monitor your engine for the telltale clicking noise. Unless you hear that, there's no sense in spending $5,000 to pre-emptively replace them.

SCarGuy

One youtube video does not a problem make. Let along a nightmare waiting to happen. Particularly since you don't know the history of the car in question.

I have multiple clients with over, some well over, 100K now on S4/S5/SQ5's (18's), without incident. No oil consumption, no noises, they just keep going. The engine is a workhorse.

Why do they make any running changes to cars? You never know. Sometimes it's a design issue. Sometimes it's a supplier change. Sometimes it's neither.

This reminds me of the "ticking time bomb" that is the IMS bearing in some Porsche's, or the "eventual" timing chain failure in the Audi 4.2 V8.

synergize

Part numbers and dates of use:

06M109417H roller rocker arm D >> - 11.09.2017

06M109417L roller rocker arm D - 11.09.2017>> - 06.08.2018

0P2109417 roller rocker arm D - 06.08.2018>>

Refer to these revisions, the vehicle has MFG date after 06.08.2018 seems fine. Not sure 2nd revision also has no issue (06M109417L).. should be better than first version but since it has another revision 0P2109417 it seems had an issue with 2nd one as well

Anything after 6.08.18, is going to be a MY19. So these part changes will only affect MY18 and maybe early MY19

Braun

just because American date format confuses me….my rs5 was built july 2018, so they should have the 06M version? It’s weird how they are saying july 2019 but your info says 2018. You aren’t the first to say it either so I wonder where their info is from.