HPA DSG Upgrade Review...
03-07-2009, 12:05 PM
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HPA DSG Upgrade Review...
I'm now a believer. One hell of an upgrade for any DSGers. I'd rank it up there with the Haldex mod for the 3.2.
These are done with iPhone Dynolicious app. Take it with a grain of salt. The 0-100 is pretty accurate. But the HP is way off due to the drivetrain loss mis-calculation. I wish I have 290HP...
This was done on an Audi A3 3.2 with the following speed/drag performance mods:
Revo (SPS+ 8-6-8)
Neuspeed Exhaust
Haldex controller
Koni FSD + Euro Springs
Winter tires/winter wheels (The wheels weren't really spinning that much, so I don't think the tires will make much of a difference, the winter wheels are about 5-8 lbs heavier each, so that might make some minor difference)
Before:
<a href="http://s249.photobucket.com/albums/gg230/eltonsi/?action=view¤t=IMG_0067.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg230/eltonsi/IMG_0067.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
After:
<a href="http://s249.photobucket.com/albums/gg230/eltonsi/?action=view¤t=IMG_0068.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg230/eltonsi/IMG_0068.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
Did about 5 runs each and they are within 5 hundredths of a second.
Before:
0-10(km/h) 0.58
0-20 0.98
0-30 1.39
0-40 1.91
0-50 2.45
0-60 3.16
0-70 3.82
0-80 4.54
0-90 5.46
0-100 6.38
After:
0-10(km/h) 0.44
0-20 0.85
0-30 1.27
0-40 1.69
0-50 2.20
0-60 2.84
0-70 3.41
0-80 4.16
0-90 5.02
0-100 5.92
:thumbup: :thumbup:
After a few more days of testing, I'm still very happy with this mod. The shifts are noticeably smoother, especially under WOT. Launching at 5200RPM is nice and it's not as harsh as I intially thought. As advertised, the redline limit is bumped and you can really feel the power at higher end. Even if you are not an aggressive driver, you will enjoy the quicker and smoother shifts. I used to ask myself, how much quicker is 60% of less than a second? Will I be able to feel the difference? The answer is yes.
Going to supply a couple links from the R32 forum for your techies. No point of me rewriting everything as they are clearly more knowledgeable than me, and have written a great review.<ul><li><a href="http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4275672]http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4275672">http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4275672]http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4275672</a</li></ul>
These are done with iPhone Dynolicious app. Take it with a grain of salt. The 0-100 is pretty accurate. But the HP is way off due to the drivetrain loss mis-calculation. I wish I have 290HP...
This was done on an Audi A3 3.2 with the following speed/drag performance mods:
Revo (SPS+ 8-6-8)
Neuspeed Exhaust
Haldex controller
Koni FSD + Euro Springs
Winter tires/winter wheels (The wheels weren't really spinning that much, so I don't think the tires will make much of a difference, the winter wheels are about 5-8 lbs heavier each, so that might make some minor difference)
Before:
<a href="http://s249.photobucket.com/albums/gg230/eltonsi/?action=view¤t=IMG_0067.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg230/eltonsi/IMG_0067.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
After:
<a href="http://s249.photobucket.com/albums/gg230/eltonsi/?action=view¤t=IMG_0068.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg230/eltonsi/IMG_0068.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
Did about 5 runs each and they are within 5 hundredths of a second.
Before:
0-10(km/h) 0.58
0-20 0.98
0-30 1.39
0-40 1.91
0-50 2.45
0-60 3.16
0-70 3.82
0-80 4.54
0-90 5.46
0-100 6.38
After:
0-10(km/h) 0.44
0-20 0.85
0-30 1.27
0-40 1.69
0-50 2.20
0-60 2.84
0-70 3.41
0-80 4.16
0-90 5.02
0-100 5.92
:thumbup: :thumbup:
After a few more days of testing, I'm still very happy with this mod. The shifts are noticeably smoother, especially under WOT. Launching at 5200RPM is nice and it's not as harsh as I intially thought. As advertised, the redline limit is bumped and you can really feel the power at higher end. Even if you are not an aggressive driver, you will enjoy the quicker and smoother shifts. I used to ask myself, how much quicker is 60% of less than a second? Will I be able to feel the difference? The answer is yes.
Going to supply a couple links from the R32 forum for your techies. No point of me rewriting everything as they are clearly more knowledgeable than me, and have written a great review.<ul><li><a href="http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4275672]http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4275672">http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4275672]http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4275672</a</li></ul>
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03-09-2009, 08:54 AM
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Of course it can....
...I suspect that the A3 also has the warning in the owner's manual about ECU/TCU "flashes."
The bottom line is that if your mod causes another part to fail, then the dealer won't repair the fault under warranty.
Since the whole purpose of a "flash" is to have the ECU/TCU work outside of factory specs, a dealer could easily blame any remotely related issue on your modification. Will they? It depends on the fault - and the dealer.
You must have the financial ability to cover ANY repair on a related item (and DSGs are pretty pricey) if it happens.
You've got to "pay to play..."
The bottom line is that if your mod causes another part to fail, then the dealer won't repair the fault under warranty.
Since the whole purpose of a "flash" is to have the ECU/TCU work outside of factory specs, a dealer could easily blame any remotely related issue on your modification. Will they? It depends on the fault - and the dealer.
You must have the financial ability to cover ANY repair on a related item (and DSGs are pretty pricey) if it happens.
You've got to "pay to play..."
