I hate this BBS software. I think it's time to start researching other forum scripts again. <p>Does anybody know of scripts that are similar to this that don't cost a fortune? We tried the UBB software (the same software VW Vortex uses) but we had server problems with it, plus we didn't really care for the "feel" of it. We like this script for it's "feel" but the fact is it's a free script and you get what you pay for. This software hasn't had any type of upgrade in almost 3 years, there has to be something similar that works better.<p>If you know of a forum script that is similar to this one, please let me know. <p>Matt

<ul><li><a href="http://www.riva.zone.com">riva zone</a></li></ul>

<ul><li><a href="http://awsd.com/scripts/webbbs/">web bbs</a></li></ul>

That VW Vortex seems to be a pain in the butt to start using. Just not worth the time or headache.....<br>

The fastest most realistic gaming experience on the planet!!<p>Nvidia delivers hype; 3Dfx delivers promised performance<p>Only Voodoo 3 lets you play at extreme resolutions while maintaining smooth gameplay!<p><br>RANT MODE OFF.....<p><br>trifona

Believe it or not we've really made the rounds on BBS systems. We used WebBBS for a very short period of time and, again, it wasn't to our liking.<p>I, too, have heard that the script that we are using has some pretty screwy code behind the scenes. I love the format, but the innerworkings may not be up to par for our industrial-type usage. What we really need is somebody to *fix* what we've got. Contact me if you are a masochist PERL guru (and A4 owner) with too much time on your hands. :-)<p>Jason

We ran a V3 3000 on my friends system, Celery 450, 128mb RAM, etc...Quake2 800x600 110fps. Yeah, it's fast alright, but tell me, who needs 110fps? It's not like it plays any better. Anything over 30fps is fine (in the crusher demo).<p>Oh, and what's that...no 32-bit rendering....woo hoo! Wait for the NV10, that's what i'm thinking...<p>=)<p>Edmund L<br>RivaTNT, Celery504A, 128mb CAS-2, BH6, 16.8GB IBM<br>

their recent merger has not/is not going to well. I'd be worried about the future of Voodoo...

We tested this script but never put it into regualar use.<p>Matt

Their stock is going through the roof right now...I wouldn't say their merger is going badly.<br>Since this is totally OT I've sent you an e-mail with more.<br>

...it didn't have the option to reply to a reply, so threads didn't breed as fluidly as they do with this software. It looks like it now has replay to reply, so maybe worth another look?

32 Bit Rendering?<p>Tell me prey tell...<p>Just how does that nvidia board run w/ 32 bit color on during Unreal? Why use 32 bit rendering if it will cost you a 50% performance hit?<p>Screenshots are pretty, but if you are playing internet deathmatches you need raw speed or you are dead. Besides, i doubt that you could tell the difference between 3DFX's improved 22 bit dithering from Nvidia's 32 bit during actual gameplay. Its only in the still shots that discernable differences can be made between the two. Raw performance is what will keep you current; look at V2, released more than a year ago, it is still on par with the most update to date hardware.<p>Dont even let get started about game compatability. 3Dfx Rules is this area over Nvidia.<p>NV10? More hype eh?<p>Voodoo 3 is already slated to outperform TNT2. Voodoo 3 4000 will be here by summer offering even more performance....and by the time NV 10 reaches production, Voodoo Rampage will be cleaning up during the holiday selling season.<p><p>trifona<br>Long Time 3Dfx shareholder!<p>PS - For the most hilarious commercials from their $20 mil ad campaign visit their website:<p>http://www.3dfx.com/view.asp?PAGE=nusadcampaign

at the risk of starting a 3d accelerator war on this board too.

3dfx doesnt "push" developers to use Glide at all. No one ever gets compensated for using Glide, however if the developer wants to implement it into their software, 3Dfx always provides support to do so. Developers use Glide because they want to showcase their games, nothing more.<p>Its simply just another option at the disposal of developers who wish to push the envelope of whats available for API's. In fact across the board, 3Dfx supports ALL of the independent API's, and in fact usually comes out on top in head to head comparisons; whether DX 6 or Open GL. In fact, the new Open GL ICD, allows V2 to outperform a TNT. Look it up at Sharkey's or Voodooextreme.<p>Its a very thin programming language that allows direct interface with the hardware. It is also much more easily to program for than DX6.<p><br>trifona<br>'99.5 1.8tqms<br>+ Voodoo Junkie

True, true, but then why can't 3dfx make v3 with 32-bit rendering? It wouldn't be that difficult for them to do, and please, if you can do demo1 at 110fps (like my friend did with v3 3000), then 32-bit at 55fps isn't that bad at all.<p>You also have to consider that some heavy graphics users like to use 32-bit color on their desktop for 2d graphics - games aren't everything. <p>In terms of current internet games available that would need accelerated speed, there's Q2, Q2, and Q2 - Unreal is a good game, but not for DM. Sin? Nope. Half-Life? I wouldn't know, since i don't have the key for multiplayer. As far as I know, anything over 25fps on 3 Finger's crusher demo is fine for internet DM - if you don't have the demo, give it a shot, you'll see why. <p>Even on the crusher demo, V3 3000 only pulled 42fps at 1024x768, v. the TNT 32fps at the same resolution - yeah, i know, 10fps is a lot, but for the cost, i'm not sure it's worth it. And visibility wise, you won't be able to tell the difference in speed in normal demoing mode.<p>Compatibility, yeah, i'm not gonna touch that...nvidia needs to do some work over there. And yes, their detonator drivers suck.<p>But still, I would argue that in any case, TNT or V2 is fine for internet play right now - maybe when Q3 comes out, V3, TNT2, or one of the newer cards will be necessary. <p>In addition, i don't think it's that fair to compare TNT to the V3 - by now, the TNT is roughly 6-7 months old, while V3's just came out a bit ago, so duh, of course they're gonna be faster! If u compare TNT to V2, the V2 is faster, but i personally think that V2 looks like crap on Q2 (no colors), and on top of that, you need a decent 2d card to even come close to TNT's 2d performance.<p>So, here's my preference order : <br>V3 3000 > TNT > V2<p>why not V3 2000? Hell, why would you want a substandard card? Either the best, or nothing at all. =) As far as the NV10 goes, i've noticed that on the whole, the hardware industry doesn't seem to deliver on time (Hello, AMD!) so I'm not gonna hold my breath on this one. <p>In any case, no new video card for me...i'm saving beans for a SCSI 8x burner =D<p>Edmund Louie<br>(Quake-junkie)

all from pricewatch.com : <p>V3 2000 - $105<br>V3 3000 - $141<p>all i have to say is...nvidia better get their act in shape......=D<p>Edmund

-Putting the thread with the newest posts first is common sense - unless you're used to this system.<br>-It's a joy to be able to see all the replies to one post in one shot rather than clicking on each and every one of them.<br>The name and password feature is needed on this forum given some of the more immature posts.<br>If it works for VWVortex why wouldn't it work here.<br>A4.org and VWVortex set standards for graphic design on car enthusiast sites, except for this BBS software with it is blue/purple links etc

Well, the main reason it didn't work for us, is because after 2 weeks it was using so much of the server resources our ISP called us up and told us that they were shutting down our site unless we got rid of the software. We promptly got rid of it (90% of the users didn't like it anyway) and went back to this ancient script. What alot of people don't know is that the UBB software almost killed this website. If it wasn't for Johness coming forward with his server, I highly doubt that this site would be here right now.<p>I suppose if we really wanted to, we could now go back to the UBB script since we don't have to worry about using too much of the server resources, but like I said, most people didn't like that software anyway.<p>Matt

There is no TECHNICAL reason why 3Dfx didnt include 32 bit 3D rendering output for the Voodoo 3 2000/3000/3500. It was purely a time to market thing. It was the CEO who stated that doing so, in essence revamping their 3 year old architecture wouldve delayed their time to market by at least 30 days. It was VERY important that they not use up this time since it was needed to ramp up production prior to release to meet the swelling demand at the retail & oem level. STB only has the capacity to produce 500K boards per month, they needed that extra month to build up their inventories, Voodoo 3 has been in full production since Feb 22. <p>IT WAS PURELY a BUSINESS DECISION!<p>Even without 32 bit 3D rendering output Voodoo 3 is slated to sell over 1 million units in its first month; the highest for ANY 3D accelerator EVER!<p>On another point, Voodoo 3 as well as Banshee is capable of producing 32 BIT color depth at the desktop for 2D work. In fact the V3 is the FASTEST Windows acclerator on the market making it ideal for Photoshop & serious CAD work. The 32 bit color limitation that you describe is ONLY an issue for 3D rendering output; NOT a desktop issue. You can run your desktop at 32 bit, but when in GLIDE/Open GL/ or DX6 the 3D output will be rendered in 3Dfx's 16bit/22 bit dithered output.<p>Hope that clears things up!<p><br>trifona<br>Rampage is a coming!

Ive seen those prices advertised at BuyComp.com; but they didnt expect any to be in stock for at least 30 days; Voodoo 3's are hard to come by through internet stores, their being shipped almost exclusively to the big volume chains like CompUSA, Electronics Boutique, and Babbages.<p>If you can find one at those prices id jump on it; i seriously doubt that you would be disappointed!

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Now how about that =P<p>EL

I seriously disliked the format you like for the very reason you like it. I have to see every post when I open up a thread. Plus I can't respond to one individual post within the thread.<br>I like to be able to scan subject titles and "one-liner" posts. That way I don't have endlessly scroll through some God-awful long posts, one after the other, if I don't want to.<br>It's quick and easy this way, even if it is "ancient".<br>I would not be able to easily check the site while at work, nor would I want to engage in searching through threads if we went back to the VWVortex style.<br>-Cathleen