I'm not surprised, same stuff, different country!!!
As for scaring my "new" (not official just yet) gf off....doubt it, as long as I keep my mouth shut about being R. Kelly's best friend :-)
Mr. Mom
02-19-2002, 06:42 AM
Alf Arkin
02-19-2002, 06:46 AM
In general, Canada made US slaves free and welcome. Many people have tried to "blend-in" the mainstream culture by covering up their native Indian, Black, Hispanic or French roots. It sounds more like assimilation (-:
Mr. Mom
02-19-2002, 06:48 AM
Sounds a bit soft doesn't it?
If you like this, try looking into the history of the now tony Nantucket.
greendoh
02-19-2002, 07:20 AM
Although in general, Canadians seem more understanding than Americans, particularly the southern kind..
I find that here in Toronto, racism is a two way road.. never go shopping in china town without a chinese speaking friend, or face the racist "white boy price hike"..
Alf Arkin
02-19-2002, 07:31 AM
I grew up in Canada, and tend to trust my own experience more that some article written by someone that may not even have visited in Canada.
The violence and discrimination that I see here in the US does not exist in Canada.
greendoh
02-19-2002, 07:37 AM
As far as violence is concerned, there have been lots of shootings, stabbings, crazy ****.. Its almost "copy cat" ****, where some punk kid thinks hes a crip or blood or whatever the hell it is.. not real gangs, but just as deadly.. depends where you are of course, but Toronto is getting worse and worse all the time..
As far as racism is concerned, there are still severe issues, but Ive never seen a KKK march or anything stupid like that..
Mr. Mom
02-19-2002, 07:40 AM
compared to 'mericans.
This caught me by surprise as it sounded very un-canadian. I guess not.
Remember, you only heard what you were supposed to hear ;)
Why do you not think it was organized?
You are Canadian, does this not happen there and only here in the US? Seems pretty narrow-minded IMO to only think that these actions only take place here in the US.
Alf Arkin
02-19-2002, 07:55 AM
I suggest you visit Canada and decide for yourself. Don't just listen to me, `cause I'm biased, like all of us Pinkos (-:
Mr. Mom
02-19-2002, 08:06 AM
Just got very confused by this article as it sounded un-like Canada!
I guess time does change the things we value!
Looking to go back sometime soon (not business related as I may be going to Toronto to look at a potential acquisition.
I guess that 'appens when you don't speak French in Quebec eh?
I used to go fishing in a small town called Maniwaki....Lac Desert-was owned by Olin but we got to go as past owners of a cabin on the lake!
Alf Arkin
02-19-2002, 08:38 AM
Canada could have had a savage civil war, like the US civil war, but didn't. Instead, they've been negotiating, accommodating and assimilating for 100+ years. It's all very inconvenient and costly, but more civilized in my opinion!
But I can also tell you from personal experience that the English-French "problem" has seriously affected the lives of many Canadians, including mine, and is partly the reason why I live in MA now.
Mr. Mom
02-19-2002, 08:46 AM
I really liked Montreal and would move there in a second if I could speak French (the wife loves it too!) Unfortunately, it looks like the city took a hit as far as economic activity goes as I wanted to see what rush hour would be like on the subway so the wife and I did the commuter thing and were surprised at how few people we saw (compared to NYC that is).
I do love the way quebecois speak english though!!!
Cheers
Peter
Alf Arkin
02-19-2002, 09:58 AM
Yes, Montreal has been taking a hit for 30+ years now. It used to be the largest and most important city in Canada . . . I mere shadow now . . .
I started my business in Montreal, but since most of my clients were in the US, I moved too.
Indeed the subway is great, NYC is a zoo by comparison (my mom lives in NYC). In Paris France, the subway cars are identical . . . rubber wheels, soft ride.
On the Quebecois accent . . . no comment (-:
Mr. Mom
02-19-2002, 10:15 AM
My wife and I were wondering what they do if they get a flat tire? Or are they helper type tyres?
Cheers,
Same blood type BTW (do you think its influencing our political persuasions?)
Alf Arkin
02-19-2002, 10:31 AM
I rode the Montreal subway for years, never saw a flat tire. They're real wheels, not helpers.
Who's "Olin" ?
Mr. Mom
02-19-2002, 10:53 AM
it had us both curious! I guess they've never had to change one ;)
Olin, like the company www.olin.com (they make the stuff for pools and other stuff as well).
Peter
SuspendedLikeaMoFo.
02-19-2002, 01:11 PM
With expansion brings higher crime, ie: gangs.
Most of them I know of do a good job keeping it low-profile. There's isn't much to be gained by walking into the limelight.
Contrary to the retarted media and what they'd have you believe about gangs, they aren't just about being tough, killing people from opposing gang members, gang-bangs and vandalizing. There's a much more lucrative aspect financially which I won't get into here.
SuspendedLikeaMoFo.
02-19-2002, 01:14 PM
I have several friends and have met several others that were francophones, but tell me the best thing they ever did was move out of Quebec.