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delly
10-28-2010, 04:56 PM
A4 P-Zero tire problems
My Pirelli P-zero tires are shot at 21,000km (13,000 miles). The tires were getting noisy and on closer inspection they are worn out in the center of the tire section. The center rear tire tread is almost completely worn away and the front tread is thicker (than the rear’s center section) in the center but worn much more than the outer edges. This to me appears to be a classic case of over inflation. Now here is the confusing part- the tire inflation sticker on the driver’s door jam says Front: 38psi Rear: 42psi. That seems crazy to me for a car with a front weight bias. I checked the manual and it reads Front: 32 Rear: 30.

Car is a 2010 A4 Quattro with 19” sport package. Anyone have similar experience. Does anyone have a door jam tire sticker that reads “F 38psi; R 42psi”?

Moviela
10-28-2010, 09:25 PM
I believe the door sticker is the final say as to tire pressure. It usually (but not always) is placed last when the tire and wheel information is known to assembly. Some dealers will play switch-it with another car so the sticker may be inaccurate.

Tire inflation should be done when the tires are cold, but not that cold. If you live in Canada and fill the tires in winter, gas expansion can increase in summer causing the wear you see.

All things considered, that is about double the distance I covered when I had P-Zero's on another car.

I just changed the Goodyear LS-2's Tuesday that came on my Audi at 43,000 miles. A German car should have a German tire.

JBDinTX
10-28-2010, 09:29 PM
A4 P-Zero tire problems
My Pirelli P-zero tires are shot at 21,000km (13,000 miles). The tires were getting noisy and on closer inspection they are worn out in the center of the tire section. The center rear tire tread is almost completely worn away and the front tread is thicker (than the rear’s center section) in the center but worn much more than the outer edges. This to me appears to be a classic case of over inflation. Now here is the confusing part- the tire inflation sticker on the driver’s door jam says Front: 38psi Rear: 42psi. That seems crazy to me for a car with a front weight bias. I checked the manual and it reads Front: 32 Rear: 30.

Car is a 2010 A4 Quattro with 19” sport package. Anyone have similar experience. Does anyone have a door jam tire sticker that reads “F 38psi; R 42psi”?

Same tires on my s5. I got 14,700 out of them. Summer tires just don't last.

NickZag
10-28-2010, 09:33 PM
21k isn't bad for PZero's, although I'm actually impressed with my PZero Rosso's on my A4. The PZero's on my C63 lasted for a whopping 4k miles. Like you I also have the 19" sport package and so far I've got 17,500 miles including a bunch of track days and they still have about 25-30% tread left on them. I've ran them at the sticker recommended 38F 42R and rotated them every 5k miles without any issues. It seems if they're that unevenly worn they didn't get rotated.

JD15
10-29-2010, 04:32 AM
The tire pressure on the door jam sticker is the recommended pressure for maximum load conditions (5 people in the car with luggage in the trunk). The manual provides a lower pressure range that can be followed when the car is not fully loaded. All of this information is provided in the tire section of the owner's manual.

mikeaudi1
10-29-2010, 05:54 AM
On my 2011 quattro 6 MT Prestige (18" wheels P6 tires) I am running 32/32. This jives with my manual and a tire inflation formula that I've used for street cars for years.

I really like the way my car handles/corners. No squeal, nice turn in, unbelievable grip in the rain.

42/38 seems like way too much pressure IMHO.

I had a 2004 Touareg with P Zeros on it. The VW manual suggested about 10 PSI more than I was using. Thing is, most people that I talked to at the dealership were only getting 10 - 12K mile on the P Zeros. I got 21,000 miles and still had a little tread left.

I’ll post the formula I use if anyone wants it. It is a nice way to double check the door sticker and manual.

markcincinnati
10-29-2010, 07:01 AM
I think you are fortunate that you got 13,000 miles out of these tires.

NickZag
10-29-2010, 09:10 AM
It's interesting to see the mixed milage everyones that everyone gets out of Pirelli's. I vowed never to get another set after the ones on my Mercedes died so fast and I definitely wouldn't get them again on my Audi. I've always wondered why the PZero line is so expensive because there is nothing special about the tire.

QUA77R0
10-29-2010, 09:17 AM
Got about 14,500 miles out of our P-Zero's and that included numerous track days. I would say that they did really well considering how often I've had to replace them on other cars(5-7k). I just put on Continental ContiSportContacts 3's. Hoping to avoid any of the annoying flatspotting that the P-Zero's were exhibiting.

I would be more concerned about your uneven wear pattern which indicates more than one issue. Lack of rotation, improper inflateion, etc...

av_audi
10-30-2010, 09:07 PM
A4 P-Zero tire problems
Now here is the confusing part- the tire inflation sticker on the driver’s door jam says Front: 38psi Rear: 42psi. That seems crazy to me for a car with a front weight bias.

This is a consequence of the Explorer/Firestone fiasco. The government passed legislation to have a single pressure recommendation on the door jam, so that people don't get confused (apparently it is having the opposite effect on some people :D) . That pressure is the maximum recommended by the manufacturer.

My car has the same four different pressure recommendations on the door jam as in the manual: half load under 100mph, half load over 100mph, full load under 100mph, and full load over 100mph. The range for the rears is between 28psi and I believe something like 41psi. When it is just you in the car, 41psi feels like having tires made out of stone. But when I had almost 900lbs of tiles in the trunk once, I made sure to inflate the rears to 38-39psi.

MrStuff
11-01-2010, 07:24 AM
My PZero Russos a finished too.

I find anything around 30psi they seem to look and feel deflated with added vibration on the highway. I've always kept them at the 38\42 cold. They have lasted over 20000 kms (for some reason even after reading here I still think it's crap!) and I adjust them in any large temperature swings.

I think the Russo's are the cheaper PZeros too. Side note, did anyone notice they don't seem to stick to the road very well (well as well as i've expected them too)?