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euroboost
06-16-2009, 07:57 PM
I'm looking to ad DVD playback, TV tuner and NAV to my MMI, stock came with no NAV.

There seem to be a lot of devices on the market for our B8s, all of them promise the best, I saw this advertasing on youtube for the Ampire NIM300 but it's for the euro market

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JliYqAcbNtU

Are there any alternatives besides the one on ebay?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Audi-A6-A8-Q7-MMI-Navi-Multimedia-interface-Newest_W0QQitemZ260378177709QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar _Audio_Video?hash=item3c9fbfb0ad&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

euroboost
06-16-2009, 08:42 PM
There's a pretty nice device available in US, it's the Dension Gateway 500:

http://www.dension.com/i/uploads/a6-cluster-426x305.jpg

http://www.dension.com/products.php?pageID=11

Here is the AVR device which let you plug external DVDs, game consoles, iPod, DVDs, Navi systems,USB pen drives, PS2 and control them directly via the OEM MMI

http://www.dension.com/i/uploads/dension-avr-426x305.jpg

scottacus
06-17-2009, 08:09 AM
The Dension product looks sweet, but keep in mind that without nav you actually don't have the true Audi MMI system, but a stereo that simulates many of the MMI's features. So you should check with them to see if it will work on B8s with the Symphony or Concert radios without MMI.

BTW the product on eBay is almost certain not to work if you don't have a nav-equipped car as it does require the full MMI system.

mart242
06-17-2009, 12:07 PM
I gotta ask: what's the point of tv & video on the little screen? You can't be waiting in your car that much all day long unless you're a cab driver

And please don't tell me that you watch videos while you drive.. talking on the phone while driving is already bad enough...

euroboost
06-17-2009, 01:23 PM
The Dension product looks sweet, but keep in mind that without nav you actually don't have the true Audi MMI system, but a stereo that simulates many of the MMI's features.

Yes, I was told that by the dealer today, it seems like this screen is smaller in size and doesn't have the same resolution that the one on the Q5 or Nav equiped cars.

At dension website the Gateway 500 is compatible with symphony.

http://img194.imageshack.us/i/compat.jpg/

Blake P
06-17-2009, 01:53 PM
I gotta ask: what's the point of tv & video on the little screen? You can't be waiting in your car that much all day long unless you're a cab driver

And please don't tell me that you watch videos while you drive.. talking on the phone while driving is already bad enough...

It would be purely for my wife's viewing pleasure during road trips... and the fact that we don't really enjoy the same music, so it would make for better background noise for me as well.

mart242
06-17-2009, 06:22 PM
It would be purely for my wife's viewing pleasure during road trips... and the fact that we don't really enjoy the same music, so it would make for better background noise for me as well.

The screen is angled towards the driver... I think that she'll end up with a neck ache more than anything else.. (or maybe a headache). Look into something like a portable media player. Cheaper, long battery life and you can use it outside the car (and plug headphones!)

Nautique
06-18-2009, 03:27 PM
So is the E-bay unit going to work on the 2009 Audi A4 3.0L fully loaded MMI with Navigation model and a DVD Player? Has anyone tried it? I will e-mail the manufacturer and if they say okay I will buy it and report on whether it works or not.

awhk
06-19-2009, 09:02 PM
Yes, I was told that by the dealer today, it seems like this screen is smaller in size and doesn't have the same resolution that the one on the Q5 or Nav equiped cars.

At dension website the Gateway 500 is compatible with symphony.

http://img194.imageshack.us/i/compat.jpg/

Can you show us where did you find the info? The cloest I can find is Gateway is only available for A5 with true MMI. No info for A4/5 w/o MMI.

http://www.dension.com/compatibilityDatabase.php?carMaker=Audi&huMaker=

local3
06-22-2009, 06:25 AM
You may want to read these for more info:

Will the real MMI please stand up? Difference between standard radio Concert/Symphony and the optional DVD navigation's MMI controls in B8 platform Audi A4 and A5
http://a6retrofit.tripod.com/articles/a4a5realmmi.html

The above should explain that by default an A4 will not have full MMI, but a radio mimicking one. You might eventually find an after-market video-in adapter that taps into your display cabling, but no official Audi solution exists. Also, Dension 500 will not work for you - it is for MMI and it won't support video display as is either.

If a car has MMI 2G, the following are relevent - but again MMI 3G is different (the new one starting from model-year 2010 in A4)...

Notes on retrofitting TV module Audi A6/Q7/A8
http://a6retrofit.tripod.com/articles/a6tvmodule.html

Hybrid TV module installation Audi A6/A4 B8/A5 (relevant for Q7/A8 too)
http://a6retrofit.tripod.com/articles/a6a4a5hybridtv.html

euroboost
06-22-2009, 06:27 AM
As you can see on that link, Symphony is supported by dension gateway 500 but will only give you the ability to integrate their SD card slots and iPod interface, video playback is not allowed because the screen is not prepared for video or images, it's completely different as the NAV screen.

I'm looking an alternative to integrate an aftermarket screen with hi-res but without loosing the OEM pseudo MMI integration.

awhk
06-22-2009, 05:43 PM
As you can see on that link, Symphony is supported by dension gateway 500 but will only give you the ability to integrate their SD card slots and iPod interface, video playback is not allowed because the screen is not prepared for video or images, it's completely different as the NAV screen.

I'm looking an alternative to integrate an aftermarket screen with hi-res but without loosing the OEM pseudo MMI integration.

Sorry for asking again. I don't really see the info stating the 500 can be fitted with B8 A4/A5 Symphony. Only 2008 A5 MMI is shown. Cna you provide the exact linkage for the info? Thanks again.

local3
06-22-2009, 10:08 PM
Maybe check this out?

http://shop.conexx-video.de/artikel_id_2154_a_Car-Multimedia-Multimediaadapter-Audi---VW-Fahrzeuge-mit-Audi-Radios-und-6-5-Farbbildschirm-z-b--A4-8K-Q5-A5--DVD-Multimedia-Interface-Adapter-zu-Audi-MMI-6-5--mit-Radio-Concert---Symphony.html

euroboost
09-19-2009, 09:23 PM
ok guys, after a long research I found an device to integrate the OEM screen to be able to play images, video, rearview cam and GPS navi.

I used the Xcarlink video interface for MMI, even though I had no MMI just the regular non MMI AKA MMI low.

This interface lets you switch between the OEM infotainment system and any video source as a DVD player, rearview camera or wwhatever you want to plug in, just by pressing the mode button on the steering wheel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcYkkGP5zpo

BMWBig6
09-24-2009, 03:17 PM
Nice, how much is that (parts + installation)?

euroboost
09-24-2009, 04:44 PM
Xcarlink interface was about 145 plus 10 for shipping, install was free as it is pretty much straight forward

BMWBig6
09-25-2009, 07:42 AM
Can you provide any additional details (model number, other accessories required, etc.)? The Xcarlink website is pretty awful, and show 4 different products.

Or did you buy it elsewhere (from a retailer or eBayer)?

euroboost
09-25-2009, 09:02 AM
I bought it directly from xcarink site, the one you need is this one:

http://www.xcarlink.co.uk/product.php?productid=63&cat=0&page=1

No other accesory is required.

You can see the full install procedure with pics here:

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4232451

local3
09-25-2009, 10:18 AM
This topic is very different for MMI 2G and MMI 3G. (And completely different if the car as radio Concert/Symphony.)

If you have MMI 3G, then you can watch DVD movies (and probably DVD-Rs authored as DVD movies?) on the main screen straight from factory. For additional video aux-in, apparenly MMI 3G also requires the TV module and a special cable, but I'm not sure - watch kufatec.de, they usually get retrofit stuff for this.

I don't think you can watch video files from memory sticks/cards on MMI 3G or with AMI. And you can not definitely watch them on the MMI 2G.

If you have MMI 2G, you need the TV module to be able to watch video input on the MMI, you can connect composite video aux-in to the TV module with a special cable. To retrofit all this, see:

Hybrid TV module installation Audi A6/A4 B8/A5 (relevant for Q7/A8 too)
http://a6retrofit.tripod.com/articles/a6a4a5hybridtv.html

Notes on retrofitting TV module Audi A6/Q7/A8 (same for A5 MMI 2G)
http://a6retrofit.tripod.com/articles/a6tvmodule.html

Especially the latter article has a link to a Car PC project where MMI 2G was hooked up with a Car PC via the TV module video aux-in. The article is for A6, but it is the same for A5 MMI 2G (with obvious differences in trim etc.).

You CAN NOT watch DVDs using the MMI 2G navigation DVD drive. This only possible on MMI 3G.

If your car does not have full MMI (e.g. A4/A5 with radio Concert or Symphony) or you do not wish to retrofit the video-capable head unit mentioned below, check out Conexx for after-market solutions:

http://shop.conexx-video.de/modules.php

Read this for overall differences amongst MMI 2G and MMI 3G (and difference of MMI and radio Concert/Symphony/Chorus) and how to tell which one your car has (easiest way to tell is MMI 3G has a small thumb joystick on top of the main/big MMI roller/clicker button, MMI 2G does not):

Summary of current Audi multimedia systems and history
http://a6retrofit.tripod.com/articles/audimultimediasystems.html

Will the real MMI please stand up? Difference between standard radio Concert/Symphony and the optional DVD navigation's MMI controls in B8 platform Audi A4 and A5
http://a6retrofit.tripod.com/articles/a4a5realmmi.html

BMWBig6
09-25-2009, 10:34 AM
Thanks to both of you for the info and reference links!