View Full Version : Illinois church shooter reportedly used a Glock


CC Rider
03-10-2009, 10:08 AM
All the stories seem to have the same info, probably from the AP. What they claim is:

- shooter had a Glock
- caliber was .45
- magazines held 10 rounds each

Does this make sense so far? I'm not a Glock guy. Do Glock's in .45 use 10 round magazines as standard issue? I realize he could buy magazines with various capacities. I'm just wondering if this is normal or not. I know that 1911's are usually in the 6-8 round capacity.

The other interesting item is that the stories say that his Glock jammed after four rounds.

We don't know anything abut the ammunition he was using, but I know that Glock users think their Glock will go bang every time. I'm sure this guy thought that.

Lesson-learned: just about any gun can fail to fire, even Glocks. Know your weapon; know your ammunition; and know your drills for clearing the action (tap-rack-bang).

snoogins
03-10-2009, 10:25 AM

js0ne
03-10-2009, 10:29 AM

Evilclown
03-10-2009, 11:04 AM
But it also could have been a G37, 38, or 39.

PabloX
03-10-2009, 11:06 AM
the AWB. He could have put these in any of those you listed.

schnellmb
03-10-2009, 11:26 AM

Evilclown
03-10-2009, 12:10 PM
I'm not really that familiar with Glocks. Will they interchange with all the models?

PabloX
03-10-2009, 12:18 PM
caliber.

So, the 17, 19 and 26 are all 9mm. The mag from the 17 fits in the 19 and 26. The mag from the 19 fits in the 26.

I believe that rule holds true for other calibers but I'm not sure.

KurtW
03-10-2009, 02:16 PM

Casey
03-10-2009, 02:56 PM

ATX VW GTI
03-10-2009, 03:07 PM

ATX VW GTI
03-10-2009, 03:08 PM

S4ucy
03-10-2009, 05:30 PM
...if you limp wrist them. I used to teach students to shoot in a marksmanship club, and people who limp wrist could consistently stove-pipe glocks. He could have been firing the G21 one handed and get to much barrel flip.

...could have also been bad ammo

...could have been interference with the action of the gun (the guy was tackeled at some point IIRC).

Anyways, who knows if the news is even accurate. Pic for clicks (if this glock fired, I cant imagine another one not)
<img src="http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/images-guns-glocks-g21test-saltedglock.jpg"><ul><li><a href="http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/images-guns-glocks-g21test-saltedglock.jpg">x</a></li></ul>

CC Rider
03-10-2009, 06:33 PM
I'm not sure I buy the limp wrist theory since he fired four rounds before the failure.

He was not tackled until the gun stopped working (the gun failure was not caused by him being tackled).

I think the most likely cause of this failure is bad ammo, which may have been rectified with the clearing drill.

TabulaRasa
03-10-2009, 06:58 PM

S4ucy
03-10-2009, 08:02 PM

ATX VW GTI
03-10-2009, 08:46 PM

ryoung
03-10-2009, 11:42 PM
Curious whether she'll carry at church or not.

snoogins
03-11-2009, 04:02 AM
I bought it in 2001.

quickaudi:STFA
03-11-2009, 02:39 PM