I want something with a remote switch so I can see flick it on and then back off quickly just to see about where the boy is before he pulls the trigger.
Finding it tough to help him get a good sight picture, and hoping this will help.
I don't need/want anything super-duper, but I don't want to buy crap for $30-40 if a good one could be had for $60-80.
01-14-2008, 05:46 AM
You can find them on Gunbroker.
01-14-2008, 07:19 AM
01-14-2008, 10:37 AM
01-14-2008, 11:00 AM
I've been sandbagging the rifle and setting up the shots, holding the gun in place, then having him take position. Works, but it's a pain and he doesn't really get the right feel for things. I'd like the laser just to be able to check and say - no, you're way off to the right with that sight picture, or whatever.
I could almost use a boresighter, but would like to keep him actually shooting.
01-14-2008, 11:43 AM
Would kinda prefer to spend less, but the cheapo $30 units seem to get completely panned, and once into the $70-80 range, popping an extra $20 to get 635 over 650 seems worthwhile.
Any BTDT with the brand and/or model?<ul><li><a href="http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=711885&t=11082005">LaserLyte Universal Rifle</a></li></ul>
01-14-2008, 12:39 PM
If the gun doesn't at least haflway fit him, he'll never be able to a natural point of aim and won't ever be able to get the sights lined up.
01-14-2008, 12:41 PM
The sight is explicitly for me, not him.
The rifle fits him well - it's a Henry Mini-Bolt.
01-14-2008, 12:51 PM
01-14-2008, 12:53 PM
What type is it, how high is it mounted, etc...
01-14-2008, 12:57 PM
Basic 3-dot type, have drawn the pictures, etc, but when he thinks he's on target he's often way off.
When I position everything and then have him sit down, the rifle often gets jostled and then he's way off.
Apparently I suck at teaching shooting.
Sights as shown on linked page.<ul><li><a href="http://www.henryrepeating.com/h005_minibolt.cfm">http://www.henryrepeating.com/h005_minibolt.cfm</a></li></ul>
01-14-2008, 12:58 PM
Beach is kinda far from here :D
01-14-2008, 01:16 PM
As long as he has the sights lined up and puts the front sight on the target, he should be GTG. Make sure he concentrates on getting the front sight centered and make sure he aims in exactly the same spot each an every time. The other thing he needs to do is concentrate on squeeeeeezing the trigger, not jerking it. If he's doing everything else correctly, that's more than likely the problem.
01-14-2008, 01:28 PM
My thought process was:
"Are the sights lined up?"
<flip on laser for a moment, then right back off>
"Ok, you look like you're off to the side, try moving a little more towards the center", etc, etc.
Basically I'm thinking talking him in until the dot is centered and then having him describe the sight picture he sees. My hope was that after a few shots that way we could figure out what the world looks like to him.
I'm open to other ideas! (I'm also not sure he's using the right eye, so we're probably fighting the left/right eye thing too.)
01-14-2008, 01:29 PM
we're talking off the paper at 10yds kinda errors, his trigger pull is definitely not clean but it's not THAT bad either.
01-14-2008, 01:37 PM
01-14-2008, 02:02 PM
I guess worst case is I waste $100 on a laser and it doesn't help me figure out how to teach :(
01-14-2008, 02:30 PM
01-14-2008, 03:14 PM
then check the gun.
01-14-2008, 09:37 PM
01-15-2008, 04:27 AM
I'm leaning towards the left-eye / right-eye thing since he has trouble closing only one eye.
Good points though! Thanks!
01-15-2008, 05:06 AM
I make the remark, just because my eyes went wacko as a kid quickly and I didn't even realize it until I couldn't see the blackboard. I'm only -1.50 and been that way for 20 years, but still... Can't aim a gun without my glasses. (wasn't implying you dont take care of your kid)
And if he's using both eyes, he is crossing the sight picture depending upon which eye he is using.
Maybe see if he shoots better with an eyepatch.?.?
01-15-2008, 06:50 AM
I understood the comment fully, no worries :) We caught his young even if possibly not young enough to avoid all the problems :(
I actually did think about the eye patch - we've been patching on and off for years so he doesn't LIKE the eye patches and I don't want to bring that into shooting if I don't have to.
The more I talk (type) about this, the more I become convinced that he's switching eyes and thus the huge jumps in sight picture. I'll have him practice one eye closing and see if we can come up with a fun/positive eye patch idea together. I'll probably snag a laser anyway just so I feel better about where he's shooting. (Toy factor has nothing to do with this, nothing, err, well, it ain't just a river in Egypt!)
01-15-2008, 11:22 AM
...non-dominant eye. So if he's shooting off his right shoulder, then put some tape over his left eye. It allows him to shoot with both eyes open, but it keeps the right eye concentrating on the target. It'll let the eyes relax too, so he won't strain as much. I do this when I shoot HP competitions. It's helped tremendously with my left eye dominance problem. Remember though, use scotch tape. It allows light to get to the left eye, but blurs the picture enough to allow the right to take over.