having to manage the NOx trap and adblue injection.
11-19-2007, 06:34 PM
11-19-2007, 09:36 PM
AoA has said the A4 will be second in line to get 3.0TDI after the Q7.
11-19-2007, 11:23 PM
11-20-2007, 08:13 AM
Why would Audi do all the heavy lifting in making the diesel sexy to general public with the R10, only to let the rivals reap all the benefits by falling so far behind them in offering diesel?
Then again, it's AoA we are talking about...
11-20-2007, 08:57 AM
11-20-2007, 09:11 AM
The story says that MTM got 292hp (from 240) with their programming, and 8hp more from their exhaust.
Still holding out for a B8 A4 Avant 3.0 TDI quattro 6-speed manual. I also believe in Santa Claus.
11-20-2007, 09:51 AM
11-20-2007, 11:52 AM
11-20-2007, 12:36 PM
Hoping for a AWD DSG version of the 3.0TDI in the Avant version. But a 6 spd will be OK too...just no slush box(Tiptronic)
11-20-2007, 08:09 PM
240 hp, with 406 #/ft torque for BOTH the Q7 and the A4. I hope they come thru as it only makes sense to offer the higher-output motor as the rest of us wishfull-thinkers will want that in the A4...avant please!
11-20-2007, 08:12 PM
the DSG. But that's a lotta torque for that tranny, and that's been it's problem to date.
11-20-2007, 08:22 PM
Q7's a lot heavier of course so it's going to need that extra torque to get moving. Of course, anything can change between now and then.... it's at least a year and a few months before the A4 3.0 TDI arrives here in North America.
Mr Paul [T-28]
11-21-2007, 11:10 AM
newton-meter pounds makes no sense.
11-21-2007, 03:28 PM
<a href="http://media.audiusa.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=9919">July 18 PR</a>
This one specifically mentions the different torque for the Q7 & A4 (406 & 369 lb-ft, respectively).
<a href="http://media.audiusa.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=9965">October 17 PR</a>
This one mentions right at the beginning that Audi is coming out with 3.0TDI for Q7, and later in A4 too. Many paragraphs of marketingspeak later, it mentions a single 406 lb-ft output engine. There is no specific mentioning of the A4 getting the higher torque engine in this PR.
It's open to interpretation whether this 406 figure is for just the Q7 or for the A4 as well. My interpretation is, since a different specific output for the A4 has already been announced 3 months prior, this 406 figure is for Q7 only.<ul><li><a href="http://www.audiworld.com/news/07/audi-cleanest-diesel/content.shtml">http://www.audiworld.com/news/07/audi-cleanest-diesel/content.shtml</a</li></ul>
11-21-2007, 08:38 PM
First off, there are quit a few versions of the DSG. The base ones for the longitudinal engines are set up to handle more torque than the base ones that came in the transverse engine cars thus far.
The top version of the DSG can handle monster torque considering it's in the Bugatti Veyron.
I just hope the 3.0 TDI gets the DL700 :-)<ul><li><a href="http://forums.audiworld.com/s4b6/msgs/142979.phtml">http://forums.audiworld.com/s4b6/msgs/142979.phtml</a</li></ul>
11-22-2007, 07:00 AM
That Ricardo DSG unit itself costs more than an entire A4.
11-22-2007, 07:32 AM
11-24-2007, 05:06 PM
for racing for 956/962 cars. Was called PDK then. The basic concept can handle lots of power. For some reason VW/Audi as so far elected not to use it for longitudinal oriented engines. I don't know if it is a technical issue, a cost issue of still amortizing the tiptronic trans for a while longer, or a marketing issue. Hopefully this won't be permanent. VW is supposed to have a 7 speed DSG within about 2 years, and Porsche will replace their tip auto with a 7-speed DSG also.
11-26-2007, 05:34 PM
to handle the TT kit they make for that car, 450+ hp
04-10-2009, 10:11 AM
I was very surprised
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