Not taking price, amenities, etc. into consideration, what kind of power jump would be justified between the V8 and the V10.
I my opinion, the R8 is going to be pushing 420HP. The V10 would be justified in my mind if it pushes 520. (Note: this inquiry is only based on power)
I would not say that a 450hp v10 would be justified if the V8 pushed 420hp.
* Lets keep this based on horsepower only, nothing to do with improved brakes, magnetic ride, etc.
John J Szobocsan
08-24-2006, 12:41 PM
But don't forget that Audi's versus, as found in the S8/S6, has an advantage of 0.2L of displacement and FSI. Torque is important and don't forget that the R8 will probably be speed limited to 155 mph.
08-24-2006, 02:04 PM
John J Szobocsan
08-24-2006, 03:50 PM
Porsche is the only German automaker not to have signed the agreement. This was done to appease the Green party and to keep the speeds realistic.
08-24-2006, 05:16 PM
though i do not believe the V10 will make more than 500. from my estimates, the V10 will cost 140 fully loaded. this is a 20K premium over a fully loaded V8 (by my estimates). the 550 hp gallardo would cost 50K more, justifying the extra 50 hp.....and not much more imo.
i don't mind the speed limiting. i plan on driving my car every day. where in the US could you ever do 180 safely? give me the power down low i say. that's where i can use it to hand M6s' their ass all day long. and by "down low" i mean 60-120 mph range. or 155.
08-24-2006, 06:42 PM
I would think Audi would be foolish if Audi would bring a V10 version to market if it only had 30Hp more- just wouldnt fly.
Even if the V10 made 100lbs more torque and would make the car quite a bit quicker, the HP number wouldnt 'do it' for most folks.
I would say that if Audi brings the V10 they'd have to be talking 500 HP. That number would make people take notice for sure. And, if it had a good 400+ lb/ft of torque to go with it- the car would step out and move very nicely.
(all of this normally aspirated stuff bugs me, Audi could do REAL damage if they just listen to me------ TWIN TURBO 4.2 V8 FSI R8. Read- no lambo V10, less politics, more ass kicking.)
08-24-2006, 10:08 PM
On a public standpoint, HP speak more words than anything else at first glance for a performance car.
Once an "onlooker" sees that the car makes say "500 hp" they obviously care less of the torque curve, range, etc. It's very sad that most of the time now, performance figures just = HP.
On a different topic, i really do not think audi can increase the torque figures on the V8 to anyone over 400 pound feet. Past and current endeavours show that with high revving, naturally aspirated engines, the available torque is compromised.
If there are any engineers in house, please inform me of the high-revving principle and how that affects torque numbers.
08-25-2006, 04:56 AM
nice round number. it will sell. no TT V8 b/c to keep costs down the V10 has to be derived from the new RS6 engine. the two may not be exactly the same but they will be both NA.
08-25-2006, 08:41 AM
08-25-2006, 09:05 AM
i still get teary eyed when i remember the memories i had with mine. oh...the memories.
if you have one...you know what i'm talking about.
ps- if an RS is made it will not show up until god knows when. the regular TT doesn't go on sale till may. the S version the FOLLOWING may. (2008)
but not as wicked as a modded RS4 engine. that's what it'll have.............
John J Szobocsan
08-25-2006, 12:00 PM
The original TT is truly one of a kind. No other contemporary car had the impact as this vehicle. I consider myself fortunate to be one of the owners of an early TT mkII, a Neiman-Marcus edition for those that do not know. One hundred cars in a unique color combination, similar to that of the Frankfurt TT show car!
However, I know that the mk II will not have the visual impact of the original--the design is too familiar and anything to different would disconnect from the TT design language. But the new car will be dynamically impressive, judging by early reviews.
09-03-2006, 09:14 AM
Hmmm. What do you think about a friendly wager? Heh.