they should be pretty competitive, although if the GT-R comes with the twin turbo V6, I think that it will have the upper hand from the dealer and in aftermarket tuning. The most recent Motor Trend has a pretty fair write-up on the GT-R. Not saying I like one over the other especially since the final specs for the GT-R are not out yet.
04-29-2006, 12:17 PM
I'm sure the Nissan boards will have to opposite opinion.
I'm not a fan of the styling either and that's why I've never even liked the classic Skyline.
Remember, this car is made to compete with the 911 Turbo and is expected to give it a real run for the money if not beat it. Only time will tell I guess.
04-29-2006, 11:10 PM
04-30-2006, 12:24 AM
No matter what it will be pure speculation until Nissan officially announces the release and pricing info. This price will be considered a bargain for what is to be considered the 911 Turbo slayer.
04-30-2006, 08:34 AM
04-30-2006, 11:06 AM
the gtr is designed to spank a regular carrera. and wont be far behind a 997tt. but everyone keeps assuming the gtr will be FI engine. there are not official specs yet, just myriad rumors. some say v8, some say v6tt; some awd, some rwd. the only design parameter is a specific lap time around the ring. also, the only official spec on the gtr is that it will be coming to states as a nissan (and not an infinity, as was previously thought)! ill get in line for one if i have the funds when it becomes available.
04-30-2006, 11:42 AM
04-30-2006, 12:15 PM
04-30-2006, 12:37 PM
they are both rwd 2-door coupes and are near identical performance-wise. The only difference is price and despite that, there are people out there who are definitely cross-shopping the two. The 997TT and the GT-R (assuming it will be AWD and have forced induction) are an even closer comparison. When the GT-R arrives, there's no doubt I'll be keeping a close eye on it to see if the 997TT will be worth the $60k+ premium over the GT-R. I'm thinking it will.
04-30-2006, 01:00 PM
04-30-2006, 01:43 PM
they are both awd sedans and are near identical performance-wise. "The only difference is price and despite that, there are people out there who are definitely cross-shopping the two ..."
those two cars - the z06 and 430 - while close performance wise, are in completly different leagues. so too will the gtr and 997tt be.
04-30-2006, 01:46 PM
04-30-2006, 01:52 PM
"but from a performance standpoint, you CAN compare the STi is every audi!! unless your merely buying a car for conspicious consumption, one ought to value the car that exhbits the same performance at a lesser price point. the reason an audi and an sti ought not be compared is because of interior ammenities (but when talking about track cars, for example, this is a unnecessary condition)."
Not sure whether it supports or detracts from your argument, but you said it...<ul><li><a href="http://forums.audiworld.com/rs4b7/msgs/137.phtml">Previous Post</a></li></ul>
04-30-2006, 02:05 PM
like i said, with performance as the only indicator of whether or not someone would consider two cars, you can compare the sti and the s4. but we know people dont behave in such a way generally (ironically, i am one of the exceptions, but im young and a track nut). we should note, however, that the diff between the s4 and sti is only $15k. the gtr and 997tt: $70kish. the z06 and f430: $140kish !!! however, cars like the 430 and z06 are in different leagues; one is a $60k american sports icon, and the other is a $200k italian exotic!! so too can one extend the same logic to the porsche 997tt and the gtr. while they might be have similar performance, the customer they will appeal to are vastly different. sure there may be exceptions to this rule, but in general someone shopping for a 430 has plenty of resources available to him to purchase such a car AND a z06 if he wishes to. how many people do you think really cross shop the two cars. the same will hold true for the gtr. the gtr expressly was desinged to compete with the 997, and not the 997tt!!
but more importantly, even with performance as the only criteria, the 997tt will be a much stronger car. everyone keeps speculting about the gtr, but the only thing we know is that it will badged as a nissan, and is designed to be competition for the carrera 2.
04-30-2006, 02:50 PM
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04-30-2006, 03:00 PM
no where in my original post did I say they are in the same "league"... I was merely alluding to the fact that performance-wise they are certainly to be compared. And in my book, with my money, and the fact that it will not be the only car in the garage, comparison based on price-point does not outweigh pure performance figures and certainly how many smiles per mile the car gives me.
04-30-2006, 11:41 PM
...every angle i see just looks worse. cadillac would be poud to add it to its ranks.