Elf and I have been on the phone talking brakes alot to just quite a few people. What we have come up with is pretty much the Alcon 328mm (to fit stock 17" wheels) is THE best track setup. StopTechs would be adequate but don't have the details that make others (Alcon, Brembo, AP) true racing brake setups. Things like correct mounting of the rotor to the aluminum hat and having the brake pads not ride on the surface of the rotor when the brakes are not applied (helps keep them cool!).
Another option is the Alcon replacement rotor with Corbotech pads. The 2-peice, directional vane rotor would definitly help with cooling and not warping but we would still be stock caliper which weighs quite a bit.
Anyway, I will see what kind of multiple kit discount can be had and let you all know.
I will also be looking into the rear kit just because it is so cool.
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05-30-2006, 07:30 AM
05-30-2006, 07:41 AM
i'll have my other pics this afternoon, i'll fire you a ftp addy so you can download your pics!
The difference between the 6 and 4 pot calipers is the 6 pot will have more pedal travel but have better wear characteristics. The 4 pot will have a very stock like feel but might go through pads a tiny bit more.
The rear break kit will put a little bit more bias to the rear which is good for trail braking and thats the way the Stasis race cars are.
I will probably be going with the 4 pot front and the rear brake kit someday. I also have a feeling there are going to be quite a few good used SS brake line kits going up for sale soon ;)
I will get more info later today as well as pricing So let me know roughly what you guys are interested in.
05-30-2006, 11:25 AM
05-30-2006, 11:42 AM
*hires Mark to find a tax write off for this somewhere*
05-30-2006, 11:52 AM
05-30-2006, 12:12 PM
05-30-2006, 04:23 PM
at 500 bucks for replacements, you save 500 bucks with the alcons in the long run. thus making the price difference/advantage a mute point. catching my thought process:P
You could also argue that going stg3 gets all of the routine maintanence done at once so you don't need to work on your car for 2 years afterward. Sold yet?
i'm an idiot:D
05-30-2006, 05:24 PM
Srsly, would Alcon rotors last twice as long as Stoptechs?
05-30-2006, 05:37 PM
That is, inital upfront cost for the front brake kit.
Pad selection, both street and race. Don't need to go overboard with the options here, just pick the most recommended or whatever for each.
05-30-2006, 07:46 PM
There is no getting around the fact that the StopTech and 2Bennett brake systems are cheaper than the Brembo or Alcon kits. I know plenty of people are running them and have been satisfied with them. However; I also know a couple who don't find them good enough.
I don't know if the brakes would last any longer than the other (I will try to find out tomorrow). I don't know specifics on the metalurgy of the rotors. What I do know is that Stasis is running the same 4pot 328mm kit (and rear kit) on thier race cars as we can buy. They are required to run that setup for the class. But while I wouldn't jump off a cliff is everyone at Stasis did, I think they are on to something with the brakes.
I will try to find out more later as well as talk to elf about pricing/installs. As I understand it, Alcon doesn't allow whoring out of thier product so we as a dealer need to find some other way to compensate the customer.
hans <--- will be going with Alcons even though he could get the StopTechs way cheaper as well.
05-30-2006, 08:13 PM
How much do pads/rotors cost? How long can they be expected to last? That kind of stuff.
I agree the Alcons are most likely better. But just have to see if they are worth the up front higher costs, and I want to see how the long term costs compare.
05-31-2006, 06:16 AM
paying the extra cost. Just like buying summer tires & winter tires up front instead of all seasons.....