Recently i inquired about dyno testing my car at a local place to check the horsepower and torques after i finished all the work. He said to me that he can offer a dyno tuning service with the normal dyno run. He said he will tune the car to perform at its highest potential based on the current mods. I currently have the Carbonio intake, the power pulley, the chip, apr snub mounts and i am having the test pipe installed. Does anyone have any news or know about how much more power they can get out of the enginer by dyno tuning it? Please let me know. Thanks
07-25-2007, 09:27 AM
all the mods that i have now on my car except for the fmic. and i dynoed my car w/o the fmic. it was 224whp. idk about awd cars but mine is a fwd. based on other dyno sheets with similar setups torque should be in the high 200's. im not sure what other method of tuning he can do because the chip pretty much designed to do it all for you. the most ive heard was manually tweeking your wastegate to push like 3 pounds more(which on a k03 should be like 25-30 more hp) but that can put you at risk of your car going into "limp mode" due to the fact that the chips not controlling that. i would ask him and clarify and double clarify what exactly hes going to do because you have to sign a liability waiver that in short terms it says "if your car blows, its not my problem"..not sure if that applies the same if hes actually tuning it. good luck, and keep me posted..
07-26-2007, 05:23 AM
Thanks for your response. I have decided to not do the dyno tuning and wait. I want to see what the testpipe will do, and according to everyone else on this forum the testpipe is pretty good and I should see some good power from it. I am definitly going to ask what he would do to get the power, I also will not sign anything that says if your engine blows i am not responsible. I will keep you posted and let you know.
07-26-2007, 06:10 AM
yea man, i have a dyno sheet posted up in this forum, but there was no torque reading. you should be around 224whp with the test pipe.if its a fwd, idk about awd.i didnt really feel a difference with the tp.and about the waiver, it is MANDATORY that you sign it to get your car on the dyno. since you are the one who drives it on the dyno, shifts, decides when to let off the gas and such, and since it was your decision to dyno it, its not there responsabliilty to what happens to your car during, or after the dyno run. but if hes going to tune it, then that might be different you know what i mean?
07-26-2007, 07:24 AM
I dont think he understands how our cars work if he is claiming he is gonna throw it on a dyno and tune it for you and get you more power... Sounds like he is used to working on older turbo cars like eclipes / rx-7 / supras, that you could just throw a manual boost and/or fuel controller on and go to town. Tunning on our cars must be done by hacking the ECU and is what APR and the other chip tunning companies are doing. Otherwise our engines will think something is wrong and go into limp mode to protect itself.
07-30-2007, 10:56 AM
I went to the place on friday and inquired about the dyno tuning and the guy was pretty vague about what he was going to do. He did say that there was a lot of reprogramming of the ECU, ignition timing and fuel injector work (whatever that means). The testpipe i bought from Ebay from some guy in California and it was 3/8" short. The guy installed it but now it is rubbing on a crossmember where the pipe meets the exhaust. I am pissed. I had the shop where i took it order me the testpipe and exhaust from APR, so now i have to get rid of this testpipe which is worthless to anyone with a B7. Also he was telling me that when i get the APR testpipe and exhaust he will reprogram the APR chip to a stage 2 plus. Which according to him, despite all i have read on the forum in the last couple of days, will give you much more horsepower and torque because it remaps the ECU to allow for more air and gas to flow through the car, which to me sounds great. However i do not know how much i believe him now, and the whole things is costing quite a lot of money so i hope it is worth it. I am very happy so far with the modifications i have made but i want to make sure i am not being had by these aftermarket dealers.
07-30-2007, 12:01 PM
the stage 2 chip is actually a detune if you want to get down to the wire. what the stage 2 chip does is it configures fuel,timing, plus more to adjust to the new exhaust and/or test pipe to get better results. the reason apr says it gives you more power is to sell. i have a friend who works for an authorized distributor of apr and he does work for me. the only difference between the tp,and full exhaust is like 4 whp..sorry to bear the news but hope this will cheer you up, with the purchase of an apr exhaust/ and or tp apr is supposed to give you the stage 2 chip as a courtesy service..or in other words FREE..imo opinion i think that guy sees ingnorance in you and is trying to hustle you. keep that in mind, i wouldnt bother with it bro.
07-31-2007, 06:44 AM
Thanks for the heads up, i am going to see what happens when i go back to the place. I want to ask him also to check the chip on my car because for some reason, not sure if it happens to you ever, but i think the chip de-activates itself when i turn off my car. It does not happen all the time but i have had it happen before. So if i understand you correctly, the stage 2 actually gives you less horsepower then stage 1? or is what you are saying is that the only increase is 4 whp from all those upgrades? I am shocked by this, why would anyone buy the testpipe and exhaust then? For the sound i suppose? Well thanks for your help, ill let you know what happens.
07-31-2007, 08:20 AM
no bro, the stage 2 is nothing but a hype to get people more eager to buy the exhaust or test pipe. the stage 2 chip does nothing in gains.its a reflash. according to my friend at apr h says that the chip is based around adjusting and tweaking what the first did not do.i guess it could help somewhat in the long run.im saying that with the full tbe you will see gains of around 4whp(including the "tune"). not the best bang for your buck(900-1300$). i dont have and exhaust yet, just the test pipe and the research ive done it looks like the exhaust wont really do much for you as of now(just bring attention),im holding off until i get thhe big turbo kit where its actually worth it.
07-31-2007, 09:18 AM
I wish i did not pay for the exhaust in advance.... i would have def. rethought the idea had i read the forum a day earlier. Either way i will get the exhaust and testpipe installed for the minor gains and continue to save for the big turbo which i too want to do. The guy at the place i have been going had a Garrett turbo in stock in the display, what a difference in size. i cannot believe it fits in the same place the stock turbo fits. He said with that and all the other mods the car would be a beast (one of his clients supposedly got just under 400HP at the wheels with that turbo). Well thanks for the help and knowledge, i will post a picture of the car as soon as I get the exhaust installed.
07-31-2007, 01:10 PM
our motors on the stock block will not hit over 350 whp without stock internals. i had a guy that did my friends tc(boosted blablabla) and he fed me the same ****. this car will hit easily on the stock block 400whp with a gt35r turbo,custom manifold,intake piping and fmic and full exhaust, he claims he did it on passat. i believed him but kept on doing research, he has a shop in miami called world wide racing. hes a toyota guru but does NOT know **** about audis. our cars are not civics man we cant lego them up and expect them to run. the set up your boy is talking about would cost well over 10k and one dumb f*ck. the kits arent out yet and if the k04 is 4k imagen our btk. not including pistons,rods,fueling,labor ect for a safe setup. the guy in miami quoted me 4 large DONE!!..and dont forget, our manifold and turbo are one peice, not to mention unless your going stand alone, there will be ALOT electronic sh*t getting involved with your performance. dude im 19 and i am going crazy to get this girl moving and did everything to get it now but im fed just like you man..haha..got to wait..or at least i am..ANYONE OUT THERE FEEL FREE TO PROVE ME WRONG im always up for learning new stuff..but in reality though, take all what i am telling you as str8 up bull and research it yourself if you want to hear it from pros..
08-02-2007, 04:35 AM
www.wwrturboinjection.com is the web site where that dude in miami claims around 400whp on the stock block. hes BIG in miami too..
10-13-2008, 11:14 PM
Hey guys,,, i've been reading these posts,, trying to catch up after awhile. Check out these websites: If you want to know how some dude in Miami is getting close to 400hp,,,, this will help. It's all about the conditions, the numbers, and the correction factors. Check it out.
I battle these conversations all the time.
So, get the exact time of day, the Barometric pressure, the elevation, the temparture, and what type of Dyno it is. Look at the paperwork (look for a correction factor) use the software...... and see what would that engine produce in your neighborhood, on that same day and time.