i have been searching all day on the forums trying to figure out whose RS4 replica is better Hartmann or Velocity.

1) whose rims weighs more

2) whose curvature is closer to that of the OEM RS4 rims??

Any ideas guys??

3) how much heavier is it than my 17" double spoke A4 stock rims??

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Our 18" V708 are 25.5lbs and 19" V708 are 27.5lbs

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Looks great! Gunmetal on white match really well!

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Cheers,

Rich

anyone know the Hartmann Rs4 rep wheel weight and our stock weight.

I have read some posts that say the quality on the Hartman is better, any comments??

I havent heard anything from the Hartman guys?? I had heard reports of their rims being better quality. ???

What about the weight of the Hartmann??

Where is the post that show the differences in the curve of the VMR rims??

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I personally prefer the Hartmans, because I feel they look less generic and the paint-job has more depth. I believe the wheels are very good quality products- and I recommend them based on my experience with the product and company.

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which can accommodate wider tire and less expensive to boot.

very easy decision, imo. they fill out the fender nicely and i can throw on my 245's no prob, unlike the hartmanns. now, if the damn things weren't sold out all the time...

Next time instead forcing <i>your</i> opinion on others- try posting a few pictures, a quick line on your opinion, and some stats such as price or weight... Then let AW members decide how they want to proceed.

Kinda like I did.

The new Hartmann B7 RS4-252 wheels are available in 19x8.5" with offsets of ET38, ET42 and ET48.
Hartmann has their wheels manufactured by European companies which costs a bit more than elsewhere but delivers the highest quality available. Many are made in the same plants that produce the OEM wheels for Audi.
ETA on the next shipment of B7 RS4 - 252 wheels is 40 days.
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Hartmann also has their own line of forged B7 RS4 wheels available, these weigh 22.10Lbs and are fairly inexpensive for a forged wheel manufactured in the USA.
<img src="http://shop.achtuning.com/ProductImages/images/product_images_hartmann/Hartmann_500x500_Audi_B7__Split_7_Spoke_Silver_For ged_Angle.jpg" alt="Forged B7 RS4 style wheel by Hartmann Wheels">
<img src="http://gallery.hartmannwheels.com/d/4275-5/b7s4_b7forged.jpg" Alt="Forged B7 RS4 style wheel on Audi B7 by Hartmann Wheels">

Here a link for you<ul><li><a href="http://midol.com">http://midol.com</a</li></ul>

Well I just called VMR and they are out of stock on the RS4 Reps. New shipment is about 3 weeks out. However for the set it (RS4 reps on 245/35/19 Rubber) for roughly $1800 plus shipping.

will that tire size rub on my 2008 Audi A4 Special edition with sport suspension???

Called Hartmann too and they are also out, but the guy wouldnt give me a price, he only said that t was about 40 days out.

The recommend size tire is actually 235/35/19 and we only guarantee fitment with that size on stock suspension, however we have seen 245/35/19 work fine as well.

If you're decided on the wheels, please place a pre-order deposit to secure your set! It only take a 50% deposit that's fully refundable if you change your mind!

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still getting use to this blackberry.

prob came off as an a-hole, muh bad. doesn't change my stance on which reps are better.

IMHO ;)

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My Onyx Black 19" "VMR" wheels have peeled badly....under VERY minimal driving (6,000 miles per year). Very early set though....may be better nowadays. Going to get them powder coated black.

earlier batches. We have since update the application process and have not had any of these issues arise since.