Do you think the price of the A3 will raise the price of the new A4, and do you think they'll be less inclined to offer an attractiv lease on the A4? Finally, when is the A3 supposed to reach US Showrooms?? Now off to watch football coverage..GO EAGLES!!
01-23-2005, 12:52 PM
From the dealers perspective... which I happen to know because I work at one.... Audi internally has been touting that they are going to price the cars in a tier one perspective in order to widen the gaps between Audi and Volkswagen. The inital price of the A3 will be in line with the current price of the A4, the realistic price of 28000-37000.00 The A4 will then overlap around 35000-45000 with the S4 comming in around 53000.00 as an average. We assume this becuase the current price of the A6 which is 48-60000 and then the A8 around 70000.00. As for the lease programs I can assure you (and take my word because I am the finance manager here) There will be NO LEASE SPECIALS or rate specials when these cars hit the ground. There most likely will not be a program until the current body A4's are long gone. When the new A6 hit there where no programs for almost 2 months, we just got our first programs and they are NOTHING like the programs available on the current A4. The release date for the A3 in the states will be April / May with the S4 right behind it, as we are expecting the first A4 B7 any day now (we have one on truck on its way here) that is a "demo/order" car.
We did get to deliver a car to an AOA proving grounds track employee reciently and got some cool news.... The RS4 WILL WITHOUT QUESTION COME TO THE STATES. This has been confirmed with 425hp under its belt. We will not, however get the avant version of the car. We will also get the LeMans which is being tested as we speak, VERY EXCITING NEWS. as for a powerplant for that car, my source could not comment but he did say that it would be a VERY LIMMITED CAR. Also the Q7, I was told was bigger than I expected. It will be bigger than the current model Explorer... I think that is pretty big for a European SUV...
All pretty cool news./.... I will share as I learn<ul><li><a href="http://www.ScottsdaleAudi.com">http://www.ScottsdaleAudi.com</a</li></ul>
01-23-2005, 01:03 PM
Aight...I hear you... next question.. So you think the A4 will begin it's lease program around June?? You think the lease will be in the $400 range?? I think I asked this question earlier in the week...just want new perspective as I begin to save up for that "cash due at signing" money....
01-23-2005, 01:37 PM
Here is a very humble quote...
WITH 5000 DOWN 12K MILES PER YEAR...
Using a money factor of .00260 a residual of 44% and a selling price of 37500.00 with a MSRP of 37500.00 your payment would be around 517.16/month for 48 months.
I would bet that will be close.
01-23-2005, 05:16 PM
If they plan on putting a serious dent to BMW and Mercedes in the US...they need to undercut them pricewise. $38,000 for a loaded A3 3.2 and $45,000 for a loaded A4 3.2 is ridiculous IMO.
01-23-2005, 06:30 PM
01-23-2005, 07:13 PM
Good luck Audi and VW.
01-23-2005, 07:21 PM
US release date for the le mans and the RS4. believe it or not, i will actually hold off on the RS4 if the LMQ will only be a 12-24 months away....
01-23-2005, 07:23 PM
the TL is a wonderful car but it's not an audi. the B7 is worth the price of admission over the TL- at least i think it is. i am sure you have your reasons but i hope you reconsider....
01-23-2005, 07:32 PM
Thats about $61K usd.
little car BIG BIG price tag.
01-23-2005, 08:15 PM
I find it hard to imagine that the B7 A4 will really start at 35,000. By my calculations, with the B6 A4 currently starting at 26,520, your estimated price is a 32% increase. I really think your estimation is incredibly off. In any case, please do not be offended as I maybe the wrong party. Anyone else have feelings to offer?
BTW:Doesn't the new A6 start at 41,620?
Teh DeSeRT Rat
01-23-2005, 08:36 PM
01-24-2005, 02:42 AM
Yeah, I think the 32% price increase would really deter buyers and thus if this does occur, Audi shouldn't expect any sales increases anytime soon as (argh), many buyers myself may be mr attracted by ...sigh...the new 3-series, or the C-Class... So, I honestly don't think the increase would be that much. I heard a 5% increase in more in line with reality.
01-24-2005, 05:57 AM
No don't do it you are going to regret it
01-24-2005, 06:09 AM
01-24-2005, 06:41 AM
01-24-2005, 06:49 AM
They're pretty nice for a japanese car. Plenty of punch, bluetooth is cool, nice nav, dealership is just by my house (audi is across town), and don't forget Acura reliablity and resale! Yes, they are not as engaging as Audi's but they have their pluses, too. Just like Audi has it's negatives.
01-24-2005, 07:39 AM
So true.... I got one....and took it back a month later and got my TT back.... JAP CRAP!!!!
01-24-2005, 07:41 AM
Have you ever seen a 26000.00 A4 ??? I know I have not..... I guess I should say the numbers that I am quoting are prices for cars with equipment..... Sorry......
The cheapest A4 we have EVER sold here with equipment is around $28000.00
01-24-2005, 07:43 AM
Dont forget that those prices include UK taxes... But with the US dollar so weak.... it does not shock me about the price of the new A4
01-24-2005, 12:46 PM
Since I get a hefty discount if I buy a Mazda product...(racing a Miata..the only perk I get ..is a discounted new Mazda)
01-24-2005, 01:21 PM
0-60 in 6.6 sec. Almost weak for a car that makes close to 280hp.
It will be "only" 7.2 for the A4 with the 2.0.
It will still be a great car that I would take over a Honda and Toyota but with a price tag close to $30k....well I would still take the craftsmanship technology of the A4.
01-24-2005, 01:35 PM
Actually I support most of what you are saying, and I'm also in the Audi business for about 13 years. Many of my fellow Audi Worlders will argue that's too much. Ive been saying all along that the first of a new product will not have any special programs. As far as the actual price is concerned, take a look at BMW and Benz. Their comparable model is still priced above Audi's. Hey - if we all liked the same car then we'd all be driving the same car, but my money is on Audi - even if it were priced as much as the Bimmers and Benz'.
01-24-2005, 02:02 PM
I agree..... I am on my 5th Audi product now.... I came to work at the dealer so I could feed my habit! LOL
We will see what the price is when we get the cars....
The prices/ lease payments that I gave where an estimate.... just dont expect that it will be any where close to the current A4 prices/payments.... It just wont happen...
But hey... I hope that you are all right! I hope there is not much of an increase!!!!! I want one.... Just a thought....and as I keep saying... my $.02
01-26-2005, 03:25 PM
01-27-2005, 07:18 AM
Bigotry and ignorance have no place in this forum. Grow up.
01-27-2005, 11:07 AM
an AWD version would change things considerably for me next time around though...I agree, it is a nice car for the money
01-28-2005, 03:02 AM
at the end of the day on a 36 month lease at 300. you paided almost 11k for a car you do not even own.
01-28-2005, 04:49 AM
01-28-2005, 08:54 AM
Why on EARTH would you ever want to OWN a depriciating asset? Why not JUST pay for the part that you use.... Why not JUST pay tax on the part that you use. Why EVER own an Audi out of warranty? Lastly... if you know that you are going to most likely have a car payment for the rest of your life and you have an option to pay $350.00 vs. $550.00 or $600.00 ...and you always have a new car.....why wouldnt you.... after all it is just a tool. If in purchasing a car "we" all wanted to make smart-responsable financial decsions (which most of us, including me, dont) Then we all would be driving a Hyundai or a Kia or a Honda.... Now that is a good car for the money!..... But you pull up to a nice club in a Kia and just see where the Vallets park your ride.
Just my $.02
01-28-2005, 10:54 AM
But if you need a car that you need to put a ton of miles on it then leaseing is not for you before I moved I would put 20 to 25K on a year on a car I had a 1990 M3 that 225K before I got the A4 in 1999. Then the M3 became my trake car. The Audi has only 116 in 66 month. Which has drop a lot in the last year I am only doing 1200 mile a month now.As for warrenty stuff I do 90% of the work myself. My old house had a lift. So working on my car is not a problems. And it is not like I travel for work. On the Weekend I like to take road trips looking for roads that might be fun to drive on.
01-28-2005, 11:22 AM
ALSO GOOD POINTS! =)
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01-31-2005, 01:00 PM
Leasing keeps you rolling cars over every 2 to 4 years. You're always paying for cars during their highest depreciation years. At best, leasing is the cheapest way to execute the most expensive strategy to keep yourself in wheels. If you always want to drive a fairly new car OK, but not everybody thinks that way.
Incidentally leasers are not paying for only the part of the car they use up in the form of depreciation. Nobody can give you part of a car. You get the whole car and pay interest on the loan of the part you won't use up.