I'd do it if I could afford it. (cept with Mac gear)
pierreb
06-20-2007, 10:49 AM
djillusion
06-20-2007, 11:21 AM
carbonLORD
06-20-2007, 11:34 AM
There has to be a more realistic means then buying a half dozen amps. His set-up, (whoever he is) looks like it belongs at the Radio Shaq display, IMO.
I was just curious why anyone would so such a thing. They do not make an all in one enclosure that would accomplish the same thing?
I'm sure it sounds great, but it sure looks like a mess.
Thanks for the explanation though.
dloftis
06-20-2007, 12:48 PM
the sooner you realize that, the sooner you will understand the mentality
heavy gauge steel enclosures provide some level of shielding. While you could build it all into a giant box, it would be huge, heavy, and more expensive.
Another great thing about monoblocks is it's a one size fits all. I need 7 channels, someone else needs 9, and someone else needs 5. The same amp works for all of us. None of us are paying for channels we aren't using.
pierreb
06-20-2007, 01:49 PM
once you go monoblocks, you'll never want to go back...
carbonLORD
06-20-2007, 02:42 PM
Im sure it is the sound of perfection, it was the clutter and the half dozen bricks on the floor that kinda bothered me, was all.
thrilla from manila
06-20-2007, 03:03 PM
dloftis
06-20-2007, 03:19 PM
they're some type of accoustic panel
pierreb
06-20-2007, 03:31 PM
she let me hang the fvcking TV...wtf? it's like she drew some random line and now there's no going over it...
it looks stupid like this with a whole shelf wasted, but I guess it's at eye-level so there's something.
I'll post a pic sometime.
rbt
06-20-2007, 04:15 PM
-so it makes for sales versatility on top of the other advantages mentioned above.
-plus, beauty is in the eye of the beholder...some people like the monoblock look
-some audiophiles like short stereo speaker runs; u can place each amp close to their respective speaker
Rubberduckie
06-20-2007, 07:39 PM
The gains from having chosen one power amp per speaker are lost in:
Having them stacked on top of each other (RF, heat and vibration issues).
Having large speakers like those so close to the side wall.
Having the center channel housed on the same mount as many components (I know lots of people do it this way and it's relatively effective and very convenient, but the gain from having it's own individual amp isn't audible this way).
A room that size would be better-off with smaller floor-standers or monitors and perhaps a good sub'.
Great TV, if perhaps a little big for that room -unless you like the front row at the theater.
BeeRock::Riding Red
06-20-2007, 09:46 PM
so short wires do help, so does the quality.
shorter wires allow the amplifiers to control the voice coils response more effectively
Driving Excitement!
06-21-2007, 12:58 PM
pierreb
06-21-2007, 01:43 PM
what's close got to do with it?
while we're at it, why is it bad to stack them? many vendors see absolutely nothing wrong with it, including mine. Many vendors' multi-channel amps have the same electronics side by side in 4U or 5U chassis, often in a modular setup for easy swaps. how is that different/better than stacked?
How would you mount these in an equipment rack if you can't stack them?
you guys have me all confused...
Rubberduckie
06-21-2007, 07:37 PM
over longer runs in particular.
Stacking is putting convenience over performance. I have no idea why people do this in dedicated HT rooms because when you're watching a movie the lights are usually out leaving just the glowing lights on the front of the components. Space the components out if you can - it keeps RF noice at bay and prevents over-heating. Shame to cancel out performance gains you've paid for just so everything can sit on top of each other.
I keep my digital components away from my analog components as much as I can too - it all helps.
I keep my components behind the TV (TV is a good 6' out from the rear wall and speakers even further out) so I can space them out nicely without them being visible to the rest of the room, and to get the best out of my speakers which work best with plenty of space behind them.
pierreb
06-21-2007, 09:45 PM
mine don't have overheating concerns since they're built to be stacked and warrantied that way, so I guess that leaves RF interference...not sure how that cancels out the 100W per channel I'm gaining, but that's why I'm asking?
What's considered a long run, mine are 6'-ish? the rear stage is still on the a/v receiver at 20'-ish or so but they definitely do not need MBs.
Thanks for the other tips, I use 2 shelves with 2 components per shelf side-by-side. I consider the 3 MBs for the front-stage to be one component.
TIA.
Rubberduckie
06-22-2007, 06:55 AM
RF interference pollutes the signal rather than reduces power. It can reduce dynamic range, limit soundstaging add glare and reduce focus. Nasty stuff. With speaker wire it's 'the shorter the better'.
With your components, it's a good idea to provide some sort of isolation from microvibrations. There are some wonderfully inexpensive ways of doing this very effectively. No need to buy a Thownsend Seismic Sink for each source, just keep it simple and use (for example) small bits of foam-type material under each foot. Not too bouncy and not too thin. Squashball halves work well. You could also cut up an old mouse pad into squares and stack them until they have enough give to work well under each foot.
dloftis
06-22-2007, 07:12 AM
If so, they're a hybrid amp, with a good portion of their power coming from class D.
Most "high end" amps are class a/b, which produce considerably more heat.